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Re: Value Bet?
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[ QUOTE ] BUT: Looking at this board, given the lack of action on earlier streets, what hand out there would call a value bet but wouldn't raise you and beat you? [/ QUOTE ] Any pair. A retarded 2-pair. Sometimes Ace-high. IMO betting this river is +EV, and I don't think it is close. [/ QUOTE ] PokerBob nailed it, although *we* don't see what an opponent can call with here and lose, they are infinitely more creative than us. Value bet here, call raise, not close. |
#12
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Re: Value Bet?
Remember you're playing poker online. You'll get called by almost any piece of this board and most pocket pairs by some people.
I just saw this hand as I was reading this: Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.33 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Button calls. Turn: (3.16 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB calls. River: (7.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB calls. Final Pot: 9.16 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> BB has 3s 7s (two pair, sevens and sixes). Button has Td Tc (full house, tens full of sixes). Outcome: Button wins 9.16 BB. </font> Definitely bet this and call a raise. |
#13
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Re: Value Bet?
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[ QUOTE ] Utg +1 only 3rd hand at table. BB LP over about 40 hands. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls. Turn: (7.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, CO folds. River: (10.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero??</font> [/ QUOTE ] Holy crap. Do you see why? I'll let others elaborate. [/ QUOTE ] Stop acting like a huge [censored] bigshot. As if its completely beneath you to explain why this is a clear bet. Its ridiculously arrogant and completely useless to the forums. Not to mention it annoys the hell out of a lot of people. But yes this is a very clear bet. These people will call down with any piece of the board. |
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Re: Value Bet?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] BUT: Looking at this board, given the lack of action on earlier streets, what hand out there would call a value bet but wouldn't raise you and beat you? [/ QUOTE ] Any pair. A retarded 2-pair. Sometimes Ace-high. IMO betting this river is +EV, and I don't think it is close. [/ QUOTE ] PokerBob nailed it, although *we* don't see what an opponent can call with here and lose, they are infinitely more creative than us. Value bet here, call raise, not close. [/ QUOTE ] Let's change it aroud a bit. Say you were out of position, and were leading the betting instead of being checked to then called. Would you still lead out on the river? |
#15
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Re: Value Bet?
yes.
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#16
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Re: Value Bet?
Easy value bet, call a raise but not a 3-bet..
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#17
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Re: Value Bet?
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[ QUOTE ] Utg +1 only 3rd hand at table. BB LP over about 40 hands. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls. Turn: (7.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, CO folds. River: (10.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?? [/ QUOTE ] Holy crap. Do you see why? I'll let others elaborate. [/ QUOTE ] <font color="black"> Holy crap. You're a prick. Do you see why? I don't have to let others elaborate. </font> |
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Re: Value Bet?
Thanks for the replies everyone. Hero did bet and took down the pot.
River: (10.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds. Final Pot: 12.25 BB |
#19
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Re: Value Bet?
It's not close. Bet this river. Some of you guys are weenies.
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#20
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Re: Value Bet?
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Holy crap. Do you see why? I'll let others elaborate. [/ QUOTE ] Just once why don't you elaborate? |
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