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Old 09-07-2005, 02:44 AM
nate1729 nate1729 is offline
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Default AA, 10-20 Borgata

Maybe not small stakes, but it's playing loose, so whatever.

SB plays too many hands but has skillz. Good hand-reader, good value-bettor, good at lots of things.

BB has some skills but generally sucks. Plays too many hands, throws in bets for no good reason postflop. Has some moves in his arsenal.

MP is crappy loosey whatever. More "plays too many hands" loose than "calls down with anything" loose, but he's not making any big laydowns.

MP2 is good.

I'm viewed as tight; SB and MP2 probably see me more as tight-aggressive and capable of making moves.

I have black AA. MP and MP2 limp, I raise, both blinds and MMP and MP2 call.

Flop K86, two clubs. SB bets, BB calls, MP calls, MP2 folds, I call.

Turn K86 5 [offsuit]. SB bets, BB calls, MP calls, I raise, all call.

River offsuit 9. SB bets, BB folds, MP folds, I call.

I guess the river might conceivably be wrong, but I'd seen SB try a somewhat similar bluff earlier. Yeah, yeah, he's betting into 3 other players, I'm beat... but there's always AK. The guy was an aggressive value-bettor, after all.

I'm far more interested in the turn.

I'll save my other comments for now, but if you really want to stroke me ego, check out my article in 2+2 Internet Magazine and compare and contrast. But obviously I'm most interested in analyzing this hand individually.

--Nate
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:09 AM
Petteri Petteri is offline
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

I think your line is good. I would raise flop, but waiting until turn is not bad either.

SB has been betting all the way. Action suggest he has at least two pair. But pot is almost 20 BB and you have hand with some showdown value. There is no overcalls and you are ending the action. River fold is mistake against all but most unimaginary opponents. Call river and hope he has King with good kicker.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

I like you're line through the turn, but I would have raised the river here as well. You're looking at Kx here most of the time and he'll probably call a river raise as well. A stronger hand would have 3 bet the turn on your raise.
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Old 09-07-2005, 12:18 PM
nate1729 nate1729 is offline
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

Thanks for the comments.

Given what I knew of this guy, I thought it was very unlikely that he had less than one pair on a K9865 board, given the action, though. I don't think a river raise can be justified.

Suppose a blanker card hits the river and all check; do you think it's better to bet or take the showdown?
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Old 09-07-2005, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

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Suppose a blanker card hits the river and all check; do you think it's better to bet or take the showdown?

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I'd bet out, because like an earlier replied said, he called your turn raise, instead of 3 betting.
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Old 09-07-2005, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

I hate the flop.
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Old 09-07-2005, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

i was wondering about the same thing, why no flop raise?

was this purposely to set up the chance to raise a BB on the turn?
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

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I hate the flop.

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Old 09-07-2005, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

Why?
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: AA, 10-20 Borgata

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Why?

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Because you have Aces with the trump of the suit, not Jacks on a 9 high flop.
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