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07-20-2005, 11:46 AM
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I hate you AT
No hand has given me as much trouble as AT in the incredibly soft 3/6 games I play in at my local casinos. I try to play them the most correctly but am constantly unsure as to what I need to do. Here is a hand that left me dumbfounded (for many reasons) which should become apparent. Help me with how I should have played this hand and other AT hands in the future. Little information on this hand for the players (but I want some of this discussion to be hypothetical for an average situation).
Tattoo-guy is an idiot. Plays 90% of his hands, takes them all too far and is overly aggressive. Old Guy-Fairly straightward, way too loose. Will try and steal pots if he thinks no one has anything. Other guy-bad, nothing really more. Hero-no real image. I am on the tail end of a really bad day, where I have won two pots (one chopped after some guys bad A split my better one), and haven't been making any hand better than top pair. I only have $18 (3BB) left going into this hand, and have decided not to buy in for more and let things fall as they may. The stack sizes in this hand make it fairly interesting. I'll post my thought process (which I thought was decent) after a little bit. ACTION: Preflop: 5 limpers to hero in BB who checks with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (This is the spot I always hate with AT, OOP and lots of people in the pot). Hero checks and is checked to Old Guy who bets. Folds to Hero who calls (anyone raise here). Other Guy in EP check-raises all-in for $6. Tattoo guy and old guy call (he is all in too) as does Hero. This is one unique aspect to the hand. The two people I believe may have a better hand are all in, and it is only me and tattooed idiot left. Keep in mind I have $9 left. Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. (2 Players all-in). Hero Checks. Tattoo bets, Hero puts last $9 in and tattoo calls. River: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. How should this hand have been played? 
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#3
07-20-2005, 11:52 AM
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Re: I hate you AT
Super duper easy raise preflop.
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#6
07-20-2005, 11:57 AM
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Re: I hate you AT
I would raise pre-flop. ATs will play nicely in a multi-way pot like this. Push our equity.
You don't give seat positions here, so analyzing the post flop play is very difficult. On the flop we probably have the best hand. Since you mentioned two players almost always bet when checked too, I would try and c/r off them given they are in the later positions. This is a board where we can get people to fold to 2 bets before they pick up a bigger draw. Lead the turn, we are still probably ahead, and just took the lead over hands like A5. I think your out of chips after this lead, so hold your breath for a good river.
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#8
07-20-2005, 12:10 PM
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Re: I hate you AT
Ok, I get the pre-flop raise, but lets just say that one of the limpers folds and the rest call. How tentative are we on the flop with the ace flop, and people calling a pre-flop raise? Do you bet it out from first position? Check/call? Check raise? I'm a little stuck in these situations.
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#9
07-20-2005, 12:21 PM
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Re: I hate you AT
[ QUOTE ]
No hand has given me as much trouble as AT in the incredibly soft 3/6 games I play in at my local casinos. I try to play them the most correctly but am constantly unsure as to what I need to do. Here is a hand that left me dumbfounded (for many reasons) which should become apparent. Help me with how I should have played this hand and other AT hands in the future. Little information on this hand for the players (but I want some of this discussion to be hypothetical for an average situation). Tattoo-guy is an idiot. Plays 90% of his hands, takes them all too far and is overly aggressive. Old Guy-Fairly straightward, way too loose. Will try and steal pots if he thinks no one has anything. Other guy-bad, nothing really more. Hero-no real image. I am on the tail end of a really bad day, where I have won two pots (one chopped after some guys bad A split my better one), and haven't been making any hand better than top pair. I only have $18 (3BB) left going into this hand, and have decided not to buy in for more and let things fall as they may. The stack sizes in this hand make it fairly interesting. I'll post my thought process (which I thought was decent) after a little bit. ACTION: Preflop: 5 limpers to hero in BB who checks with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (This is the spot I always hate with AT, OOP and lots of people in the pot). Hero checks and is checked to Old Guy who bets. Folds to Hero who calls (anyone raise here). Other Guy in EP check-raises all-in for $6. Tattoo guy and old guy call (he is all in too) as does Hero. This is one unique aspect to the hand. The two people I believe may have a better hand are all in, and it is only me and tattooed idiot left. Keep in mind I have $9 left. Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. (2 Players all-in). Hero Checks. Tattoo bets, Hero puts last $9 in and tattoo calls. River: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. How should this hand have been played? [/ QUOTE ] 1)raise preflop, has anyone said that? 2)only 3BBs left? either rebuy or get up and leave before your blind. i hope we don't have a stop-loss plan going on here, that's a big no no. 3)i c/r the flop. 4)no turn decision as you are all-in if you had 6BB including the blind. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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#10
07-20-2005, 12:24 PM
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Re: I hate you AT
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Ok, I get the pre-flop raise, but lets just say that one of the limpers folds and the rest call. How tentative are we on the flop with the ace flop, and people calling a pre-flop raise? Do you bet it out from first position? Check/call? Check raise? I'm a little stuck in these situations. [/ QUOTE ] Bet. You have top pair decent kicker against people who didn't like their own hands enough to raise preflop.
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