TPGK - Call this river?

invictus33 · #1 10-25-2005, 01:43 AM

This hand just happened recently and is bugging the crap out of me. Villain is 25/0/1 after 12 hands (stats stayed about the same for him the rest of the session). I just got my KK run over by a non raised AA the hand before so I might have been a bit too aggressive with this one. Villain hadn't done anything of note in the few hands I'd seen so far. Thoughts on all streets welcome.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (11 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB raises, UTG folds, Hero ???

Redd · #2 10-25-2005, 01:47 AM

I raise preflop and raise the flop dude. This is where the river problem started. The way it played out, I doubt that you can call the river for value but metagame+information means I'd usually do it against an unknown.

irishpint · #3 10-25-2005, 02:16 AM

raise pf
raise the flop

now, how you played it...y ou're getting 14:1 to call. borderline, i dont think it matters one way or another, but id call because i hate $ and stupid SB c/ring motherfvckers.

#4 10-25-2005, 02:33 AM

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raise pf
raise the flop

now, how you played it...y ou're getting 14:1 to call. borderline, i dont think it matters one way or another, but id call because i hate $ and stupid SB c/ring motherfvckers.

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irishpint · #5 10-25-2005, 02:36 AM

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raise pf
raise the flop

now, how you played it...y ou're getting 14:1 to call. borderline, i dont think it matters one way or another, but id call because i hate $ and stupid SB c/ring motherfvckers.

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you like?

#6 10-25-2005, 02:53 AM

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raise pf
raise the flop

now, how you played it...y ou're getting 14:1 to call. borderline, i dont think it matters one way or another, but id call because i hate $ and stupid SB c/ring motherfvckers.

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you like?

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lots.

invictus33 · #7 10-25-2005, 10:51 AM

That's a hand that I don't raise pf only because it has historically screwed me over big time. Were it suited I wouldn't have thought twice about raising it. I took a few seconds and was really thinking of raising the flop here; but with a rainbow flop like that there weren't many cards I was afraid of and I thought I could get more out of it by waiting for the turn. And I couldn't have gotten a safer turn card in my opinion of it. Probably a bit of FPS in there though.

What's really funny is villain won that hand with Q2o. I nearly vomitted on my keyboard I was so sick with myself for that hand. So let this be a lesson for anyone else who is thinkging that waiting for the turn with TP is a good idea.

lautzutao · #8 10-25-2005, 10:58 AM

You can't call this river bet, villian more than likely has you beat. You should have raised this flop too...TP2k looks pretty darn good to me on this board.

#9 10-25-2005, 11:14 AM

Surely you need to raise this flop.

And raising PF is probably correct with this many limpers.

davelin · #10 10-25-2005, 11:38 AM

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I raise preflop and raise the flop dude.

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