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#1
09-07-2005, 11:34 PM
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Set gets donked on river on straight card
Villain's unknown.
Board is ktx rainbow. Hero has raised pf vs some limpers at a short table (5-6 players) and gotten a lot of calls. Hero has TT. Unknown villain calls to river (check-calls) oop, then donkbets on a rivered 9. KTxx9 It completes QJ, but also T9. ------- No flush draw has been completed, and I can't remember if there was one on the turn or not. Villain is completely unknown after four hands. ---------- My line here, which may be retarded, is to raise and fold to a three-bet. Help! 
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#2
09-07-2005, 11:52 PM
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Re: Set gets donked on river on straight card
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My line here, which may be retarded, is to raise and fold to a three-bet. [/ QUOTE ] Are you heads-up on the river? If not, getting overcalls out of the other players might be better. If you are HU, then I think I'm probably just calling. It's too likely that he's just going to fold to your raise if he's on a complete bluff. I suppose a rivered 2 pair will pay you off, but a rivered 2 pair might also 3-bet...
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#3
09-07-2005, 11:57 PM
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Re: Set gets donked on river on straight card
This is why I play sets fast if there is any kind of coordination on the board (which is often enough). What was the betting like?
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#4
09-08-2005, 12:01 AM
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Re: Set gets donked on river on straight card
I dislike it. You should not take any line which includes the word FOLD in it. Usually, this is a call. In fact, at the moment, I can't think of a situation where I'd raise with it against a non-LAG.
The only time raising the river and folding to a 3-bet is good is if the donk is betting with 2-pair. If he's bluffing, he will either fold to your raise, netting you the same amount as a call, or 3-bet, scooping the pot from you. [ QUOTE ] My line here, which may be retarded, is to raise and fold to a three-bet. [/ QUOTE ]
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#5
09-08-2005, 12:18 AM
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Re: Set gets donked on river on straight card
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[ QUOTE ] My line here, which may be retarded, is to raise and fold to a three-bet. [/ QUOTE ] Are you heads-up on the river? If not, getting overcalls out of the other players might be better. If you are HU, then I think I'm probably just calling. It's too likely that he's just going to fold to your raise if he's on a complete bluff. I suppose a rivered 2 pair will pay you off, but a rivered 2 pair might also 3-bet... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I'm heads-up. Sorry. You're right though, going for overcalls in that situation would be great.
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