simple hand... thoughts?

bigredlemon · #1 08-08-2005, 04:56 PM

Party Poker (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
early call call, MP3 villain raises, late Hero 3bets, all folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
villain bets, hero calls

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
villain bets, hero calls

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
All checks

Final Pot:

No reads. I was waiting for the turn to raise but didn't like the K. On the river, I planned to call a bet if he bet. When checked to, I wasn't sure if it was worth a bet or not.

deception5 · #2 08-08-2005, 05:00 PM

I'd bet the river and fold to a raise.

Mooski · #3 08-09-2005, 10:00 AM

Would I be wrong in raising the flop, expecting to call the re-raise? I say that, as I want to know what the flop gave him, he may just be betting it as he 3-bet preflop. This would then narrow his range of hands. The turn doesn't really tell me anything new either, but I would probably call it down too.

(I'm learning here too, so please tell me where I'm going wrong.)

BTW, what are the limits here?

Rev. Good Will · #4 08-09-2005, 10:01 AM

raise flop, the rest of the hand will play out different(re:better) from there

tiltaholic · #5 08-09-2005, 10:07 AM

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raise flop, the rest of the hand will play out different(re:better) from there

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crownjules · #6 08-09-2005, 10:11 AM

The fact that he only called your 3-bet PF and then bets out the flop makes me think you're way ahead of some hand like JJ or 99, maybe something like AT/KT. Point is, villain thought he had a good hand preflop, backed down to your aggression, and then liked the flop enough to bet out into you.

I'd advocate calling and popping him on a safe turn card. Unfortunately, the K is an ugly card for you so I'd just call again. Value bet the river when he checks to you.

Nilbud · #7 08-09-2005, 10:46 AM

Not raising the flop is a big mistake. See the trouble you're in now that you decided to slowplay it? I think this is a perfect example of why not to do it.

#8 08-09-2005, 10:46 AM

I think you definitely want to raise the flop here. Besides getting some money in when you have the best hand it may also keep him in check and prevent his turn betting if he has another pocket pair or some sort of TPTK.

I think I raise the flop, and call a turn bet (or bet if checked to) and c/c on the river.
(Though be mindful of my post count... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )

Innocentius · #9 08-09-2005, 10:49 AM

I also think you should raise the flop. If he has a hand like AK, you are a big favorit. Make him pay to draw out. Also, you cannot be sure that he will continue to bet on the turn. If he checks to you, you will simply have lost the bet you could get out of him on the flop.

W. Deranged · #10 08-09-2005, 11:00 AM

The fact that no raise goes in on the flop or the turn makes me cry softly.