$55 bubble hand.

GutPunch · #1 12-07-2005, 03:15 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t1850)
UTG (t2130)
Button (t3800)
Hero (t2220)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="red">UTG is allin for(t2130) </font> btn folds, <font color="blue"> Hero??? </font>

Hero, Btn, and UTG have all been fairly agro stealing mostly from the BB guy who has been really passive.

UTG seems to understand bubble play fairly well, which makes me think he is pushing any 2.

Would this be a call basically for all my chips? Or should I wait if I think I can push trash and steal the blinds?

ClockWyze · #2 12-07-2005, 03:20 AM

"Big Blind is t200"

Hero (t2220)

anything else need to be said?

xJMPx · #3 12-07-2005, 03:24 AM

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UTG seems to understand bubble play fairly well, which makes me think he is pushing any 2.

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If UTG understands bubble play fairly well, than he should know not to be pushing any two through three opponents with more than 10xBBs.

I think he would have to have a very strong hand here to be doing this. He has two players that have him covered yet to act. If you call, expect to be a coinflip or a big dog the majority of the time. I don't think you are very far ahead here enough to call.

bigt439 · #4 12-07-2005, 03:25 AM

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UTG seems to understand bubble play fairly well, which makes me think he is pushing any 2.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]... If you think pushing any 2 here is good I don't think you understand bubble play very well.

If you think he's pushing 100% of hands then go ahead and make the call. But you're wrong... and you should fold.

Shillx · #5 12-07-2005, 03:29 AM

The NE (nash equilibrium) here is ~ 22% CO push/7% Button call/4% SB call/7% BB call. This means you should call with 99+/AQs+/AKo.

He is pretty foolish if he is pushing any two. You are essentially waiting for him in the middle with 77 if he is pushing any2.

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xJMPx · #6 12-07-2005, 03:32 AM

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The NE here is ~ 22/7/4/7.

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What's this mean?

Maulik · #7 12-07-2005, 03:36 AM

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The NE here is ~ 22/7/4/7.

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What's this mean?

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volunarily put $ in pot
not sure what the 7 is
and 4 = pfr

curtains · #8 12-07-2005, 03:37 AM

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The NE (nash equilibrium) here is ~ 22% CO push/7% Button call/4% SB call/7% BB call. This means you should call with 99+/AQs+/AKo.

He is pretty foolish if he is pushing any two. You are essentially waiting for him in the middle with 77 if he is pushing any2.

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Of course you shouldn't call with the hands mentioned because of some theory, its unlikely your opponents are playing perfect theoretical poker. In any case I'd always fold here, and would never push 22% of hands as the cutoff in practice.

ilya · #9 12-07-2005, 03:57 AM

I'm not sure you should be playing the $50s if you are seriously considering calling here. Then again what do I know, I don't play the $50s myself.

bigt439 · #10 12-07-2005, 04:03 AM

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I'm not sure you should be playing the $50s if you are seriously considering calling here. Then again what do I know, I don't play the $50s myself.

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It's quite correct to call against any two so if that is in fact his read and it is correct with a reasonable degree of accurcay then a call can become correct. I think an opponent like this may not even exist at the 55's however.