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Old 04-06-2005, 11:05 PM
DONTUSETHIS DONTUSETHIS is offline
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Default QJ TOP TWO HAND

PokerStars Game #1482673447: Tournament #6637290, Hold'em Pot Limit - Level VI (100/200) -
2005/04/06 - 22:46:11 (ET)
Table '6637290 39' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: pikodeep (5990 in chips)
Seat 2: yesfim1 (7740 in chips)
Seat 3: Ogelthorpe (1685 in chips)
Seat 4: HERO (5690 in chips)
Seat 5: on_tilt455 (5795 in chips)
Seat 6: shaggy74 (7190 in chips)
Seat 7: buck367 (11340 in chips)
Seat 8: xJuliex (5905 in chips)
Seat 9: notrealy (4415 in chips)
shaggy74: posts small blind 100
buck367: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Jc Qs]
xJuliex: folds
notrealy: calls 200
pikodeep: folds
yesfim1: calls 200
Ogelthorpe: folds
HERO : calls 200
on_tilt455: folds
shaggy74: calls 100
buck367: checks
*** FLOP *** [8h Qd Jh]
shaggy74: checks
buck367: checks
notrealy: checks
yesfim1: bets 600
HERO : raises 1000 to 1600
shaggy74: folds
buck367: folds
notrealy: folds
yesfim1: calls 1000
*** TURN *** [8h Qd Jh] [2c]
yesfim1: bets 800
HERO : raises 3090 to 3890 and is all-in
yesfim1: calls 3090

Thoughts Anyone?
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:29 PM
Schmeez Schmeez is offline
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Default Re: QJ TOP TWO HAND

With a flop like that and the action before the flop, there are three possible hands I can put the other player on to call your all in. The best hand that you can hope he has is a hand like Q or J 8 giving him a worse 2 pair, but I would have to say that the player calling HERO's all-in either has 88 or 910. Given his leading out into a flop like this, I would guess that he has 910. More than likely he would check-raise a set on the flop to try to get you to invest all your chips on the flop. Let me know what the outcome was, and if I was right.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:12 AM
Iconoclastic Iconoclastic is offline
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Default Re: QJ TOP TWO HAND

Assuming you have no reads whatsoever, and I'm not sure what the buy-in level is here either, I can't say the push was bad.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:20 AM
DONTUSETHIS DONTUSETHIS is offline
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This was a 10+1 Pot limit Holdem Tourney. In retrospect, I like my raise on the flop. I think the tip off on this hand was after may raise on the flop, when he lead into me again on the turn with such a small bet, he is asking for me to raise him again so that he can get all the money in the middle.

The Villian in this hand held QQ for flopped top set.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:29 AM
CardSharpCook CardSharpCook is offline
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ok, let me be the first to say, Fold PF. Do you see why? And yes, you should have slowed down considereable on the turn. I think I'm calling down after he leads again on the turn.

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Old 04-07-2005, 01:43 AM
tiger7210 tiger7210 is offline
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i definitely slow down on the turn after he called your flop reraise. Just like you played your QJ drawing hand he could be in with T9s looking to hit his monster or he may very well have limped in with 88's behind the 1st limper if he's a fairly passive player looking to catch for set value. I don't see anything wrong with flat calling behind here on the turn and evaluating on the river. He does have a healthy stack and if he's got it by being loose or bluffing then your river decision will be difficult but ur reraise on the flop and call on the turn should be enough to prevent a flat bluff on the river. If he's a loose maniac that would play a flush draw this way then pushing the turn isn't horrible and hope its a flush draw and not a made straight.
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