A general discussion of $2 BB vs. $3 BB no limit games

[JimHammer]

Harrah's here in KC used to spread a 1/2NL game until about a month ago. The floor says there hasn't been enough interest in that game lately, although there was always a pretty good waiting list for it. They do have a couple of tables of 2/5 every night and they are always full.

The typical raise at the 1/2 tables was $10, and $20 at the 2/5. However, there were typically more callers in the lower limit game (much looser). I suppose a $3 big blind would force the standard raise to about $15.

Personally, I prefered the lower limit game due to bankroll considerations. Well, that and the crappier players. Maybe switching to a 1/3 blind game would bring back some of the fish from the 3/6 limit games and generate enough rake to make it worthwhile for the casino.

[Hotrod0823]

The Wynn has no buy in cap right?

If it was 15 PF with 3-4 calls a pot sized bet on the flop is 45-60 bucks. With a 100 capped buy in that is essentially all in at the flop.

What are the typical stacks in that game?

[Al_Capone_Junior]

At wynn there is no cap on the buy-in. That doesn't usually make that much difference tho, as rarely have I seen the smaller no limit games attract the gigantic buy-in players. I started a new ten handed game there once and no one bought in for more than $300.

However, I would never recommend a MAX buy-in as SMALL as $100 for a $3 big blind game. $100-$300 would be very reasonable. $200 max would be OK, not great but OK. $60-$500 would be acceptable too. $100 min / no max would also be acceptable. With $3 chips it should never be less than $300 as the MAX buy-in (that's one rack of chips). The buy-in really isn't that big of a deal to me. Most will have within reasonable limits of what's necessary to play the game, even if there's no cap.

al

[trillig]

Who in LV is spreading the 1/3 NL now?

Wynn
Excalibur
Who else?

Is Aladdin?

-Bri

[Eder]

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The 1/2 games just keep getting tighter and tighter

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Agreed. That's part of why I posted this. The bigger blind games seem to generate more action, in so many ways....

al

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Seems to me that changing the low limit nl games to pot limit would be the action generator. Might be tougher on the dealers though.

[chesspain]

Reading Al's post was like trying to follow a game of Three Card Monte.

[bosulli]

never seen a 1/3 NL game.

The blinds in 1/2 NL dont get the job done. The blinds need to be more than a tip.

I dont think 1/3 NL will get the job done either.

I play in Tunica, and the norm is 1/2 NL. I say banish 1/2 NL and play only 5/10 NL. 15 dollars is worth making a play for. 3 (or 4) dollars is not worth the effort.

I play in Tunica and they always have 1/2, never 5/10 limit.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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Seems to me that changing the low limit nl games to pot limit would be the action generator. Might be tougher on the dealers though.

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You're talking about people who can't figure out how much they're betting when they have $3 chips and you want them to have to figure out how much they can bet playing pot limit? What a nightmare this would be for the dealers, as well as any halfway intelligent person playing this game.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Wynn and excalibur for sure. I heard an unconfirmed rumor that MGM was going to do the same, I will probably go check that out in the next day or two.

al

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Banishing the small no limit games and replacing them all with 5-10 is impractical. 5-10 is just too big of a game for new players, it would kill most of the action, except for the sharks of course.

al