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Old 08-17-2005, 08:06 PM
punter11235 punter11235 is offline
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Default Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

Hello all,

Ive just played my usual session of limit just for relax. Besides that I donated little money to 5/10 regulars I came across this problem :

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

River: (7 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

How's my play ? Is calling a raise with this hand ok or bad ? Is calling down line ok ? or should I raise and fold to 3bet somewhere ? Villain seems pretty standard, didnt make anything strange yet but I dont exactly know what his raising hand range is here; assume its standard for 5/10 (whatever that mean).
Thanks for help
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:17 PM
DemonDeac DemonDeac is offline
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

hand was played way too passively
preflop call is fine IMO, but need to either c/r teh flop or the turn. that was u have a better way of knowing where you're at.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:23 PM
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hand was played way too passively
preflop call is fine IMO, but need to either c/r teh flop or the turn. that was u have a better way of knowing where you're at.

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lol
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

im check-raising the flop
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

Hmm I would like to know what my standard plan should be here. Checkraise flop and fold after 3bet and turn bet ?
Checkraise flop and bet if only called ?
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

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im check-raising the flop

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Old 08-18-2005, 12:00 PM
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im check-raising the flop

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omg
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

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im check-raising the flop

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On a different board I might consider it. But on this particular board; it is likely the best hand has the second best hand in real bad shape, the 2nd best hand has the worst hand in really bad shape, and the worst hand is simply providing overlay for the inevitable frustrating call down.

I don't mind letting the third guy stick it out, when it is likely he has 4 or less outs.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

Also if you are looking for info, the third guy sometimes gets you off cheap, in a situation where you were already beat anyway. (IE a turn Checkraise, that you do not need to call).
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:59 PM
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lol

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not very constructive.. i dont see the point in posts like these.

i'd c/r flop and if just called, lead out on the turn. fold if he raises on the turn.

if he 3bets the flop then i'd call and then fold to a bet on the turn if unimproved.

however, AT is not a very +EV hand against a raise so i'd play it as carefully as i could. (i cant help the c/r though. maybe this is why my AF is &gt;3!)
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