Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-06-2005, 03:15 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default The flop decision

Dealt to ChazDazzle [Ah Ts] in BB
MP1: raises $2 to $4
ChazDazzle: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Js Ac 2c]

What is the optimal line here. He raised from MP1 and he seems to be sort of a solid player nothing too laggy or fish like. Raising preflop doesn't necessarily say that he has a better ace (he could have any pp as well) but if he does we want to find out and if we can how? We could qualify this as no read. Is the best line to bet out and reraise him if he raises? Or to get maximum read on his hand might we want to powerplay checkraise and then if reraised check fold the turn? As i see it i want to get into a situation with strong but not amazing hands where i can easily figure out what my opponent holds. This way i'll be able to value bet when i'm ahead and fold when i am too far behind to get pot odds to draw. Is this something i should be worrying about or do i just have to pay off the higher ace in this case?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-06-2005, 03:27 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 169
Default Re: The flop decision

'check/call, check/call, bet' generally maximizes value when you're either way ahead (66-TT, QQ-KK, etc.) or way behind and out of position.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-06-2005, 03:29 PM
TheHammer24 TheHammer24 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Changing my skirt
Posts: 335
Default Re: The flop decision

[ QUOTE ]
'check/call, check/call, bet' generally maximizes value when you're either way ahead (66-TT, QQ-KK, etc.) or way behind and out of position.

[/ QUOTE ]

River is tpyically bet/call too, it should be noted.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-06-2005, 03:31 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The flop decision

I would like to see what the consensus is preflop. I am folding based on description of MP1.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-06-2005, 03:33 PM
TheHammer24 TheHammer24 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Changing my skirt
Posts: 335
Default Re: The flop decision

[ QUOTE ]
I would like to see what the consensus is preflop. I am folding based on description of MP1.

[/ QUOTE ]

I usually call, but it is read dependent. I don't know what is optimal according to "the books"
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-06-2005, 05:39 PM
MercTec MercTec is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 170
Default Re: The flop decision

This is an easy call in the BB
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-06-2005, 05:44 PM
otis_nixon otis_nixon is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 0
Default Re: The flop decision

I like bet on the flop, call if raised, call turn bet, and lead if no c river and fold to a raise

but I usually fold preflop
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-06-2005, 06:31 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The flop decision

Is a9o an easy call? a8o?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-06-2005, 06:34 PM
MercTec MercTec is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 170
Default Re: The flop decision

A9 i say yes, A8 is gettin close but I still call. An UTG raise is a different story, but an MP raise can be a wider range. It obviously depends on the player raising, but against an unknown, I call.....but I'm a lag. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-06-2005, 06:37 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The flop decision

Just trying to get a feel for how people play. I am likely respecting an MP1 raise here, maybe even a raise from the Hijack. I feel it's pretty close either way, especially without reads, and when I'm multi-tabling especially I don't like dealing with these marginal situations. Plus, I'm finding a new table if I'm facing them a lot [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.