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12-05-2005, 04:58 PM
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Question about Isolation Moves
Assume I am on the button or in the CO, one very loose player limps from middle position and I would like to isolate him if possible.
I've been running into a lot of situations where I have a small pair or pretty good high cards, but nothing special and the SB and BB have been playing rather loose. When I go for the isolation, one or both call and I find myself in a position that is not particularly attractive. Are there some sort of guidlines for the isolation move as far as the blinds playing style goes? 
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#2
12-05-2005, 05:11 PM
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Re: Question about Isolation Moves
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Assume I am on the button or in the CO, one very loose player limps from middle position and I would like to isolate him if possible. I've been running into a lot of situations where I have a small pair or pretty good high cards, but nothing special and the SB and BB have been playing rather loose. When I go for the isolation, one or both call and I find myself in a position that is not particularly attractive. Are there some sort of guidlines for the isolation move as far as the blinds playing style goes? [/ QUOTE ] Uh, yeah: if the blinds are loose you're probably not going to be able to isolate an EP or MP limper. Raiser, maybe, limper, no.
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#3
12-05-2005, 05:15 PM
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Re: Question about Isolation Moves
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Assume I am on the button or in the CO, one very loose player limps from middle position and I would like to isolate him if possible. I've been running into a lot of situations where I have a small pair or pretty good high cards, but nothing special and the SB and BB have been playing rather loose. When I go for the isolation, one or both call and I find myself in a position that is not particularly attractive. Are there some sort of guidlines for the isolation move as far as the blinds playing style goes? [/ QUOTE ] hey... often, when the blinds suck at poker I don't hate the fact that one of them comes along -- and i have to play 3 ways with position instead of headsup. but yeah, it's nicer/easier when the blinds are tight.
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#4
12-05-2005, 05:40 PM
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Re: Question about Isolation Moves
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[ QUOTE ] Assume I am on the button or in the CO, one very loose player limps from middle position and I would like to isolate him if possible. I've been running into a lot of situations where I have a small pair or pretty good high cards, but nothing special and the SB and BB have been playing rather loose. When I go for the isolation, one or both call and I find myself in a position that is not particularly attractive. Are there some sort of guidlines for the isolation move as far as the blinds playing style goes? [/ QUOTE ] hey... often, when the blinds suck at poker I don't hate the fact that one of them comes along -- and i have to play 3 ways with position instead of headsup. but yeah, it's nicer/easier when the blinds are tight. [/ QUOTE ] I guess the ones that are really giving me trouble are the smaller pairs because I want to play them heads up against the fish or not at all.
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12-05-2005, 05:46 PM
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Re: Question about Isolation Moves
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Assume I am on the button or in the CO, one very loose player limps from middle position and I would like to isolate him if possible. I've been running into a lot of situations where I have a small pair or pretty good high cards, but nothing special and the SB and BB have been playing rather loose. When I go for the isolation, one or both call and I find myself in a position that is not particularly attractive. Are there some sort of guidlines for the isolation move as far as the blinds playing style goes? [/ QUOTE ] hey... often, when the blinds suck at poker I don't hate the fact that one of them comes along -- and i have to play 3 ways with position instead of headsup. but yeah, it's nicer/easier when the blinds are tight. [/ QUOTE ] I guess the ones that are really giving me trouble are the smaller pairs because I want to play them heads up against the fish or not at all. [/ QUOTE ] then only isolate when the blinds are tight/weak
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#6
12-05-2005, 05:50 PM
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Re: Question about Isolation Moves
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Assume I am on the button or in the CO, one very loose player limps from middle position and I would like to isolate him if possible. I've been running into a lot of situations where I have a small pair or pretty good high cards, but nothing special and the SB and BB have been playing rather loose. When I go for the isolation, one or both call and I find myself in a position that is not particularly attractive. Are there some sort of guidlines for the isolation move as far as the blinds playing style goes? [/ QUOTE ] hey... often, when the blinds suck at poker I don't hate the fact that one of them comes along -- and i have to play 3 ways with position instead of headsup. but yeah, it's nicer/easier when the blinds are tight. [/ QUOTE ] I guess the ones that are really giving me trouble are the smaller pairs because I want to play them heads up against the fish or not at all. [/ QUOTE ] Hadn't you rather play small pairs cheaply with a lot of limpers so that you get paid off when you flop a set with them? Is it that EV+ to try to get heads up with an early limper with them? Note: I'm a relatively newcomer and have only been playing since April this year.
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#7
12-05-2005, 06:33 PM
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Re: Question about Isolation Moves
Is that the way you do it?
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#8
12-05-2005, 07:00 PM
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Re: Question about Isolation Moves
Instead of focusing on isolation, just broaden the range of hands you raise with from this position under these conditions (dump small pairs always). Since the loose players will have a wide range of hands they are playing, raising with things like KJo or K10o, A8o can begin to have positive results. I even occasionally (occasionally) raise Q10o and Q9o here. Remember, you have position here and are the PF aggressor, most flops under these conditions will be checked to you (or at least the MP or EP limper will act first giving you the opportunity for raise which may then isolate). I could be wrong, though.
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#10
12-05-2005, 07:08 PM
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Re: Question about Isolation Moves
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[ QUOTE ] dump small pairs always [/ QUOTE ] I see this a lot. There is nothing wrong with blind-stealing or isolating bad players with small pairs. [/ QUOTE ] Word to that. A few thousand hands of 6max play really help you appreciate the value of small pairs in these spots.
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