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Old 10-29-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default what makes a good player

A common scenario for those of us who play with great frequency is that we are asked what makes one poker player better than another; and if two players are equally skilled doesn't luck determine the winner?

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Old 10-30-2005, 03:15 AM
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Default Re: what makes a good player

Perhaps one needs to make a distinction between 'a better poker player', and 'a better poker pro'

The distinction being that the better player would generally beat the better pro, but the better pro makes more money in general than the better player. Not always the case, but it can be so.

The best poker player in the world 4-tabling $1/$2 will be a worse poker pro than the moderate player bringing in 0.5 BB/100 multitabling the 30/60 game.
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Old 10-31-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: what makes a good player

show me the money
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: what makes a good player

I went with decision-making.

Let's say Player A is a solid player with a few leaks and flaws, but he's basically good, and he's got several very beatable games in his area so he makes a fortune. And Player B plays flawless poker, I mean perfect, but the players in his casino are considerably stronger than those in Player A's casino. So Player A is making more money, but is he the better player here? I don't see how making more money makes him the better player when he'd be the underdog heads up...
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: what makes a good player

Decision-making is clearly the answer. "Making good decisions" is the entirety of playing well.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: what makes a good player

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Decision-making is clearly the answer. "Making good decisions" is the entirety of playing well.

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It's only clearly the answer when it's combined with consistency, otherwise it's meaningless.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: what makes a good player

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Decision-making is clearly the answer. "Making good decisions" is the entirety of playing well.

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It's only clearly the answer when it's combined with consistency, otherwise it's meaningless.

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You're right; if you only make good decisions half the time, you have a problem. You need consistency. However, I wouldn't describe half the time as "making good decisions". That's "sometimes making good decisions".

I agree with MCS. "Making Good Decisions" = "Playing Good Poker". Good poker makes good poker players.
-Sam
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Old 11-01-2005, 05:12 PM
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Gotta be decision making. The other three options focus on results, and the quality of a play can't be determined by the observed results.
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:26 PM
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Results do matter, but I agree that when it comes down to it decision making is the best way to get those better results.
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