9Ts, fold turn boat?

Cumulonimbus · #1 10-06-2005, 07:29 PM

Rawr. I've been on tilt all day, so I'm confused about everything. Do I just dump this on the turn? Folding seemed too weak to me, considering he could have AA or maybe even QQ or JJ. I wasn't worried about the calling station, he just liked to see rivers.

Villian is laggy 27/15/3. Other dude is telephone.

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Preflop: Nimbus_On_Tilt is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO raises, 2 folds, Nimbus_On_Tilt calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Nimbus_On_Tilt bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO raises, Nimbus_On_Tilt calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Nimbus_On_Tilt checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, Nimbus_On_Tilt calls, MP1 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Nimbus_On_Tilt checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, Nimbus_On_Tilt calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

thesharpie · #2 10-06-2005, 07:39 PM

3 bet the flop. I'd also call it down.

Cumulonimbus · #3 10-06-2005, 07:48 PM

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3 bet the flop. I'd also call it down.

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You don't like a turn CR?

newhizzle · #4 10-06-2005, 07:50 PM

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3 bet the flop. I'd also call it down.

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You don't like a turn CR?

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i like a bet/3bet on flop so you can get bets from everyone, a turn check/raise faces the field with 2 BB cold

edit: by the field, i mean MP1

Cumulonimbus · #5 10-06-2005, 08:05 PM

i usually assume that these calling stations will call with any two cards on the flop and then dump the turn. So I provoked the call on the flop because his Q8 or 87 or whatever the hell he had usually isn't a threat to my hand, and I didn't plan on him calling the turn anyway.

newhizzle · #6 10-06-2005, 08:07 PM

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i usually assume that these calling stations will call with any two cards on the flop and then dump the turn. So I provoked the call on the flop because his Q8 or 87 or whatever the hell he had usually isn't a threat to my hand, and I didn't plan on him calling the turn anyway.

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exactly why you should charge him another bet on the flop

Cumulonimbus · #7 10-06-2005, 08:09 PM

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i usually assume that these calling stations will call with any two cards on the flop and then dump the turn. So I provoked the call on the flop because his Q8 or 87 or whatever the hell he had usually isn't a threat to my hand, and I didn't plan on him calling the turn anyway.

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exactly why you should charge him another bet on the flop

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And miss the extra BB on the turn from the villian? Along with the slightly possible 2BB from the other guy?

somapopper · #8 10-06-2005, 08:12 PM

6 of one half a dozen of another.

Cumulonimbus · #9 10-06-2005, 08:16 PM

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6 of one half a dozen of another.

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I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

newhizzle · #10 10-06-2005, 08:22 PM

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i usually assume that these calling stations will call with any two cards on the flop and then dump the turn. So I provoked the call on the flop because his Q8 or 87 or whatever the hell he had usually isn't a threat to my hand, and I didn't plan on him calling the turn anyway.

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exactly why you should charge him another bet on the flop

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And miss the extra BB on the turn from the villian? Along with the slightly possible 2BB from the other guy?

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i think its close, but id normally 3-bet the flop, the big bet you are likely getting from MP1 makes up for the one you get from CO on the turn, i think its a lot more likely that MP1 will cal 2 now and 1 on the turn than 2 cold on the turn, plus you get an extra small bet from CO now

edit: plus you never know when your going to run into complications on the turn, like a 3rd spade or the king pairing or something that may prevent you from wanting to c/r