QJo, 1/2 party full

hate · #1 02-11-2005, 02:24 AM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 4 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

Comments on all streets, thanks. My thoughts later.

Dead · #2 02-11-2005, 03:05 AM

Fold preflop. QJo is a very marginal hand. The rest looks fine.

JoshuaD · #3 02-11-2005, 03:09 AM

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Fold preflop. QJo is a very marginal hand. The rest looks fine.

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Follow this advice if your goal in poker is to become weak tight.

This is 1/2, alot of "marginal hands" are very profitable.

Nice hand hate, I play it the same way. Betting the turn and capping the flop are both options though.

Dead · #4 02-11-2005, 03:18 AM

How is folding QJo from MP2 in a 10 person game weak tight?

toss · #5 02-11-2005, 03:22 AM

What other marginal hands do you play in MP? KT, QT, JT offsuits?

Dead · #6 02-11-2005, 03:23 AM

I just can't imagine QJ offsuit being very profitable from MP2, or the other ones you listed for that matter.

cold_cash · #7 02-11-2005, 03:25 AM

I like raising better than limping, especially if the players between you and the button are tight.

Tight players don't call raises w/ KJ, AT, QK, etc., but they often limp with them.

JoshuaD · #8 02-11-2005, 03:26 AM

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What other marginal hands do you play in MP? KT, QT, JT offsuits?

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Yea. I might chuck them if the game is aggressive, but in a typical 1/2 game you can play all of these profitably if you're postflop play is good. I'm more careful with the JT and QT, but generally all of these are fine.

I'd also raise with most of these hands if it's folded to me and I'm in MP2 or MP3.

Dead · #9 02-11-2005, 03:27 AM

What's your VP$IP?

JoshuaD · #10 02-11-2005, 03:30 AM

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What's your VP$IP?

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18.5 at .5/1, 18 at 1/2, 16 at 2/4.

edit: I should clarify. These hands are marginal, and you can't play the same way every time. You do have to fold these PF for just one bet sometimes, but there are also times you are right to get in there with a call or a raise.

I may have been too harsh with in my first reply, but if you can handle yourself postflop, you should call this like Hate did here.