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Old 04-25-2005, 03:22 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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agree with everything except the 90% added together part...unless that's specific to low limits, otherwise I'm messed up at 39.6/55.6 ~=85 as well. My vpip is 22.59, which is very similar to his (mine includes a good amount of shorthanded play)

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Dawg, 39.6% + 55.6% = 95.2%.

FWIW, my numbers are 41.9% + 52.8% = 94.7%
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:23 PM
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I've always expressed how little math is a part of my game.

That and i'm on 4 hours of sleep. Still, I got owned. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:28 PM
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Pre: WSD 35.43
During: WSD 34.48

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Both of these went to showdown numbers are 1.5-2 points too high I think. Going to a showdown this often is probably why your W$SD stats are lower than average, and probably are a big reason as to why you are on this downswing.
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:30 PM
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Sample Size! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I have 30-50K hands at every level up to amd including 5/10. I was 1.5bb+ at every level. I took a shot at 10/20 and some 15/30 and took a lil hammering. I dropped down. I continued to downswing. Over the last 22K hands I am down 330BB between 15/30 an 2/4. I had a 75BB upswing at 1/2 while clearing a bonus. So I guess I'm truly ony down 255BB :P

Anyways your stats look a lot different than mine. My VPIP is only 15% at 2/4 and up. I cant find any extra hands to play and I feel like I am defending my blinds WAY too often as it is.

I would keep playing 2/4 until you upswing 100BB or so...
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:32 PM
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As a general rule, I think you want to target a W$SD plus a W$WSF in the range of 90% (yours is 85%).

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Interesting. I haven't thought much about the relationship between these numbers.

So someone who bets and raises and bluffs more might have a lower W$SD, but a higher W$WSF? Is that why you look at these numbers together?
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:34 PM
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As a general rule, I think you want to target a W$SD plus a W$WSF in the range of 90% (yours is 85%).

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Interesting. I haven't thought much about the relationship between these numbers.

So someone who bets and raises and bluffs more might have a lower W$SD, but a higher W$WSF? Is that why you look at these numbers together?

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That's my theory at least. Here, I'll make a separate post.

-N
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:52 PM
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I think you want to target a W$SD plus a W$WSF in the range of 90%

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nice to have a way to know if i'm running bad. fwiw i must be running piss poor. my last 3k hands are at 80!
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:04 PM
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Folded BB to a Steal 46.67

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Check your winnings by position. I think you may be playing too many hands, too aggressively, from the BB, or having bad table selection skills.

Rob
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:21 PM
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agree with everything except the 90% added together part...unless that's specific to low limits, otherwise I'm messed up at 39.6/55.6 ~=85 as well. My vpip is 22.59, which is very similar to his (mine includes a good amount of shorthanded play)

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Dawg, 39.6% + 55.6% = 95.2%.

FWIW, my numbers are 41.9% + 52.8% = 94.7%

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Thx for ruining my day.

11,000 hands in 30/60 or higher with 7 or more players, I am 46.91 W$WSF and 62.43W$SD so you're basically telling me I'm bound to go through a horrible awful miserable cold streak any day now in fullish games.
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:24 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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agree with everything except the 90% added together part...unless that's specific to low limits, otherwise I'm messed up at 39.6/55.6 ~=85 as well. My vpip is 22.59, which is very similar to his (mine includes a good amount of shorthanded play)

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Dawg, 39.6% + 55.6% = 95.2%.

FWIW, my numbers are 41.9% + 52.8% = 94.7%

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Thx for ruining my day.

11,000 hands in 30/60 or higher with 7 or more players, I am 46.91 W$WSF and 62.43W$SD so you're basically telling me I'm bound to go through a horrible awful miserable cold streak any day now in fullish games.

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Dear [censored] lord those numbers are insane.
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