Questionable turn play with QJ

[waynethetrain]

I check 2nd pair in this spot also. If I had some position I would bet high 2nd pair. However, I believe acting first into 4 players leaves you open to being raised, behind, and without many outs quite often.

[Nick Royale]

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I was facing 2 opponents neither of which raised or cold-called preflop. I feel like my hand could be the best hand here. I just had a friend say that he might try a c/r on the flop if he planned on staying in, what do you guys think of that line?

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Any reads someone might autobet this? Otherwise I like betting out better.

[Gambler]

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I capped thinking that AQ, KK, or KQ would have been raised PF


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I've seen people limp with all these hands.

[Gambler]

Oops my mistake, 4 players on flop. I think checking is better.

[DeadManJay]

River: (13 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero...

[Gambler]

calls

[sin808]

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but I capped thinking that AQ, KK, or KQ would have been raised PF[/i]

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What reads do you have on this player regarding his pf raising standards (stats or otherwise)? There are alot of players who won't raise KQo in EP.

without a read I'm calling down after getting 3bet on the turn.

[DeadManJay]

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but I capped thinking that AQ, KK, or KQ would have been raised PF[/i]

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What reads do you have on this player regarding his pf raising standards (stats or otherwise)? There are alot of players who won't raise KQo in EP.

without a read I'm calling down after getting 3bet on the turn.

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If only I had asked myself that question while I was playing this hand...after replaying this in PT I took a look at his stats:

vpip:6.45
PFR:1.08
AF-TOT:3.25

EDIT: Over 98 hands
Any guesses what he had [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Nick Royale]

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What reads do you have on this player regarding his pf raising standards (stats or otherwise)? There are alot of players who won't raise KQo in EP.

without a read I'm calling down after getting 3bet on the turn.

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Not capping the turn would be bad IMO. There are 3 KQ and 3 55 possible, wouldn't fear them to much. Just call the river if he leads. EDIT: I can see now he won't lead since we're out of position.

[sin808]

AQ is also possible. The only limping hand for the villain that we are ahead of that would reasonably contain a Q is QTs. He may have a K but would a K be likely to 3 bet a turn c/r when there's 2 queens on board?
Given the read the OP just gave, even if he didn't see or use it at the time I think is even more reason to call down (though he didn't tell us over what sample size the stats are for). Also brings up how important it is to pay attention to who is in a pot with you. I think he lost to KQ, with AQ possible but less likely.