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Old 09-01-2005, 09:14 PM
pfkaok pfkaok is offline
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

Yeah, my mined hands shows $2.34 per hand today (about 10k hands), up from $1.92 from last months average.

Hard to say how accurate this small sample is, but $35 per 100 hands off the table is pretty huge. rakeback will help, but a .2-3BB/100 cut in WR is awful. downswings will last much longer and be much worse.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:14 PM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

thanks

you're right, i was just confusing bb/100 with $/100
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:14 PM
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Wow this is [censored] ridiculous. I don't even play the 6 max tables anymore, but i am incensed. They should be thinking about a long term way to make more people small losers or breakeven players so the fish pool won't be dry in the next decade. In all reality, there will almost always be people who will donate, but this will obviously have an adverse long term affect on the population of people who do.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

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I'm not sure that it is. Intuitively there are two forces at conflict here. $1 is a larger fraction of a BB at 3/6 than at 10/20 but the pots at 3/6 reach $60 (where the rake is capped) less often than at 10/20.

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Well, yeah, the increase in rake will probably be hurt worse by this at 10/20, but it will still hurt the smaller games some, and they already had high rake (BB-wise) to begin with.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:29 PM
FrankTheTank FrankTheTank is offline
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

does anyone know exactly how much bb/100 is taken by the rake at 10/20 with this .3bb/100 increase? and the pt bb/100 number doesn't already take this into account, correct?
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:34 PM
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does anyone know exactly how much bb/100 is taken by the rake at 10/20 with this .3bb/100 increase? and the pt bb/100 number doesn't already take this into account, correct?

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.3BB/100 is the assumed loss to the player at 10/20, which is why it sucks so much.

PT already takes rake into account, as it just shows how much you win or lose in the session after the rake is taken out.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:35 PM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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does anyone know exactly how much bb/100 is taken by the rake at 10/20 with this .3bb/100 increase? and the pt bb/100 number doesn't already take this into account, correct?

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PT calculates (net profit after rake * 100)/(number of hands played * size of big bet).
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:35 PM
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You're right. I am kind of upset but I mean I can't do anything about it.

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Youre right, why should anyone care? We certainly have no chance at changing anything, so why waste our time trying? I sure wish party could make all my decisions for me.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:52 PM
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You're right. I am kind of upset but I mean I can't do anything about it.

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Youre right, why should anyone care? We certainly have no chance at changing anything, so why waste our time trying? I sure wish party could make all my decisions for me.

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I understand the point you are making, but I don't see what you are suggesting.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:53 PM
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I don't understand Shill... from the link it looks to me like all limits between 3/6 and 10/20 are raked exactly the same way.

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Read it carefully. They explicitly state there was a change in the 6m tables.

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when i finally meet you i am going to be disappointed you dont look like alizee.

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When are you moving out here?

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january at latest.

i may also be closer to LA than originally thought. the commerce 40/80 is calling my name [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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