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Old 12-06-2005, 05:42 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser

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What does grunch mean anyway?

I guess I have to respect what everyone is saying about folding or raising pre-flop, but what am I supposed to do when it gets capped and I don't hit the flop (happens the majority of the time)? I just threw away an extra big bet and drove out the overcallers to my left. Why do I want to do this again?

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Grunch is to respond without reading other responses first.

As to the other question, you needs must play poker, dude. Yeah, 3betting here increases variance, but it is the correct play.

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Old 12-06-2005, 05:47 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser

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but what am I supposed to do when it gets capped and I don't hit the flop (happens the majority of the time)?

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first of all most players (even laggy ones) don't indiscriminately cap every hand they raise. second, you don't miss every time. your statement is simply untrue.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:51 PM
KSOT KSOT is offline
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Default Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser

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but what am I supposed to do when it gets capped and I don't hit the flop (happens the majority of the time)?

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first of all most players (even laggy ones) don't indiscriminately cap every hand they raise. second, you don't miss every time. your statement is simply untrue.

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Whether he just calls or caps, I now have to make continuation bets on the flop, right? I generally don't like to do that if I can't beat ace high...

I didn't say it always misses, I said it misses the majority of the time.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:46 PM
Thebram Thebram is offline
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Default Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser

...grunch...

I'm not a big fan of coldcalling preflop with KQo. If he really is laggy and has been showing that he's raising with junk, I'd 3-bet to try and isolate.

Slowplaying the flop is fine, let the others peel.

I'm also not a big fan of waiting for the river to raise. If you thought there was a good chance the others might peel again then maybe, but having MP1 check the river would suck.
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