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Old 10-21-2005, 11:09 AM
molawn2mo molawn2mo is offline
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Default T8s in front of a rock

Party 10/20 and I have been running over the table with cards to die for and always showing down g00t

MP is sl-p
HJ is rock - weakish-passive, sort of the type that may be playing above his roll
CO is a fish buddy
blinds are average badish

Mp1 limps, I overlimp w/T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], CO raises, all fold to Mp1 who calls as do I

8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

MP1 checks, I bet, Rock raises, MP1 folds, I 3bet, Rock caps, I call

2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I ??? and why

edit to clarify: my notes on CO and blinds were made to "explain my overlimp." They folded preflop. The Rock is the raiser.
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:16 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

why did you 3-bet the flop? so you can have odds to draw to your hand on the turn?
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

108s advantage comes from opponents that pay you off big when you hit big hands. It is a great hand to call a raise from a rock in NL, but in this particular spot preflop I would never play it. Regardless, do as you will.

On the flop, when he raises me I am going to call or fold, probably call given the size of the pot and my 2 ok back door draws. What did CO do on the flop?
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

You seem to be calling the CO a fish buddy at once point, and a rock at another. In the opening reads you have the HJ as the rock but he didn't see the flop as far as I can tell.

If the CO is in fact a rock, and not a fish, then I have no idea why you 3 bet the flop against an obvious overpair. I would have peeled and check/folded the turn.

I think the preflop limp is questionable as well.
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:26 AM
molawn2mo molawn2mo is offline
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

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why did you 3-bet the flop? so you can have odds to draw to your hand on the turn?

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Naw... As I recall, I felt like it may be advisable to over-represent my hand and gauge the rock's response; my pf overlimp was a stretch, imo, truth be told.

If I were 3 betting to increase my drawing odds on the turn I would slap myself silly for being a tard!
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:29 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

yeah i was just gonna say, its tough to overrepresent stregnth when you limped in preflop.
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

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If the CO is in fact a rock, and not a fish, then I have no idea why you 3 bet the flop against an obvious overpair. I would have peeled and check/folded the turn.

I think the preflop limp is questionable as well.

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Rock's raise can and will be made by overs here as well as an overpair and I sort of agree with your categorization of the overlimp
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

Well, the cap is disoncerting. I guess check-call the turn and check-fold the river.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:11 PM
molawn2mo molawn2mo is offline
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

To continue...

Mp1 limps, I overlimp w/T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], CO raises, all fold to Mp1 who calls as do I

8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

MP1 checks, I bet, Rock raises, MP1 folds, I 3bet, Rock caps, I call

2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, Rock checks?!

6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I?? and why
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: T8s in front of a rock

I would c/c, I don't see him calling with missed overs or any worse hands. I think he may bluff the river when behind if we check to him again.
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