PP 2-4: capped 4 ways pre-flop

[kleinstadt1]

I had just sat down so no reads, unfortunately.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, BB calls.

Now that I think about it, this flop raise might fall under SSH's heading "When betting does not protect your hand".

Turn: (11.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, BB calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

[CashFlo]

fold preflop when it gets back to you.

[brettbrettr]

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fold preflop when it gets back to you.

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This is horrible advice.

[brettbrettr]

Looks like BB has a J (JJ?)or AA and let you bet his hand for him. Maybe AA that waited til the heart didn't hit?

[CashFlo]

can you please explain why?

[baronzeus]

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can you please explain why?

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You are getting 16:2=8:1 expected on your call preflop here. That's better than the odds of flopping a set (7:1).

I can't imagine folding TT here, ever.

[baronzeus]

I like every street here, except you can fold the river.

[CashFlo]

ahhh tru. forgot about the set (wow).

was thinking about how 3-bettor/capper has hero beat.

sorry [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[EvanJC]

seems like folding the river here for one bet getting 7:1 would be a mistake.

[baronzeus]

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seems like folding the river here for one bet getting 7:1 would be a mistake.

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It's not a mistake. If he's not beat by BB he's beat by MP1 &gt; 95% of the time here.

What hands does BB bet the river with that Hero beats? Considering Hero is representing a J or a strong pair, I think this is only AA, KK, QQ, JJ, or AJ.

PS he's getting 15:1.