Why the war on drugs will never be won

natedogg · #1 12-15-2005, 04:26 AM

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What would be the purpose in regulating crystal meth?

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You cannot stop me or anyone else from using it. Ever. No matter how hard you try.

Let's see, you've lost and you can never win. Sounds like an excellent reason to try a different approach.

natedogg

BluffTHIS! · #2 12-15-2005, 04:30 AM

Rape keeps occurring despite the laws and punishment of it, and there are plenty of repeat offenders. No way to stop it before the fact. Might as well legalize it right? Because that or an even harsher punishment regime is all you got left isn't it?

BCPVP · #3 12-15-2005, 04:37 AM

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Rape keeps occurring despite the laws and punishment of it, and there are plenty of repeat offenders. No way to stop it before the fact. Might as well legalize it right?

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Your examples are awful. Rape is not victimless. Recreational drug use is.

BluffTHIS! · #4 12-15-2005, 04:47 AM

Well of course you aren't counting the victims of drugs who die from same because they chose it. But his reasoning is exactly the same used by pro-abortion adovcates and there most definitely is a victim there. (But of course they don't count a semi-viable fetus who is partially delievered so that its head might be crushed as a victim by labelling it not a person.)

BCPVP · #5 12-15-2005, 04:53 AM

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Well of course you aren't counting the victims of drugs who die from same because they chose it.

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People die from alcohol poisoning all the time. You want that illegal too? Those hurt by OD'ing on drugs did that to themselves. Should cutting yourself be illegal?

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But his reasoning is exactly the same used by pro-abortion adovcates and there most definitely is a victim there. (But of course they don't count a semi-viable fetus who is partially delievered so that its head might be crushed as a victim by labelling it not a person.)

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Let's not turn this into an abortion thread. Suffice it to say, I think there's a victim involved in abortion as well, so that's not a good analogy either.

BluffTHIS! · #6 12-15-2005, 05:01 AM

How about the victims of those who cause auto accidents while under the influence of drugs similar to those caused by driving while drunk? (And I sure hope you aren't one of those who maintain that "experienced" pot users can drive without impairment or I'm gonna call you something that will cause Cola to ban me for a few days.)

BCPVP · #7 12-15-2005, 05:04 AM

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How about the victims of those who cause auto accidents while under the influence of drugs similar to those caused by driving while drunk?

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Throw the book at them?

I think drunk driving laws should be much harsher (in a law class my senior year of high school, we went to the court house and saw TWO FIFTH TIME drunk drivers).

#8 12-15-2005, 07:43 AM

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Your examples are awful. Rape is not victimless. Recreational drug use is.

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Having seen two friends' lives consumed and ultimately ended by heroin, and their families' lives destroyed in the process, this is the most clueless, ignorant statement I've read on this board to date.

hmkpoker · #9 12-15-2005, 11:37 AM

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Your examples are awful. Rape is not victimless. Recreational drug use is.

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Having seen two friends' lives consumed and ultimately ended by heroin, and their families' lives destroyed in the process, this is the most clueless, ignorant statement I've read on this board to date.

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No. That was their decision. People should think before they do heroin, and if they don't, they don't deserve to live. We shouldn't take away things that are dangerous to the user who makes a conscious choice to use them. We should try to educate and help people make informed decisions, which is pretty much the exact opposite of what America does with drugs. If you need to be protected from yourself, your life isn't worth much anyway.

#10 12-15-2005, 11:48 AM

You are totally correct, hmpoker. Anyone that makes a mistake in life deserves to die.

And clearly, because you say so, children aren't affected when their worthless father OD's. And clearly a parent isn't affected at all when a worthless son or daughter ODs. Drug use is 100% totally victimless.

The economy works better with these irrational decision makers 6 feet under where they rightly belong. Who couldn't agree with hmpoker, that anyone who ever tries heroin is a complete moron who doesnt deserve to live.