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Old 11-14-2005, 03:25 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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There is nothing idiotic about having a losing hand at the river. You had pot odds to draw, you missed, now it's checked around. Someone shows a winner, you muck, and then someone asks to see your hand. People get upset about this because they ask only to get a line on your play, which isn't why the rule exists.

If you want a game where everyone is required to show at the river just play online.

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I do play online mostly. I dont like driving 2 hours for a decent game. But my point is... what difference does it make as to what the rule was originally meant for? The fact of the matter is that it is still a rule. Until its changed, better get used to people asking, if for no other reason than to get under your skin.

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Fortunatly if someone is abusing this rule, the floor can and will revoke the priviledge of seeing the cards. It isn't just the original intent, it is the current intent; asking to see someone's cards is the same as saying "I think you are cheating."
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:29 PM
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Fortunatly if someone is abusing this rule, the floor can and will revoke the priviledge of seeing the cards. It isn't just the original intent, it is the current intent; asking to see someone's cards is the same as saying "I think you are cheating."

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Sorry for the tangent... but why are all cards exposed in online then if it makes that much of a difference?
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:36 PM
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Fortunatly if someone is abusing this rule, the floor can and will revoke the priviledge of seeing the cards. It isn't just the original intent, it is the current intent; asking to see someone's cards is the same as saying "I think you are cheating."

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Sorry for the tangent... but why are all cards exposed in online then if it makes that much of a difference?

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I am not familiar with online security procedures so I have no idea why they do things the way they do. Someone on the internet gambling forum could probably give you a better answer.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:59 PM
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Default I Do Not Think Asking to See Someone\'s Hands is Rude

I don't think asking to see someone's hand is rude. If I get in a pot and someone is raising me and re-raising me I want to know if they are raising w/ legit hands or if they are bullying. When I accuse someone of cheating (which is almost NEVER), I'll tell them to their face in clear language.

Winning in poker is about information and I want the info on the kind of hands I'm being raised with. The tougher/more aggressive my opponent, the more likely I will want to see the hands they are showing down against me.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: I Do Not Think Asking to See Someone\'s Hands is Rude

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I don't think asking to see someone's hand is rude. If I get in a pot and someone is raising me and re-raising me I want to know if they are raising w/ legit hands or if they are bullying. When I accuse someone of cheating (which is almost NEVER), I'll tell them to their face in clear language.

Winning in poker is about information and I want the info on the kind of hands I'm being raised with. The tougher/more aggressive my opponent, the more likely I will want to see the hands they are showing down against me.

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This is the exact abuse of the rule that isn't to be tolerated. Most players quit asking to see hands when it is explained to them that what they are doing is rude and is accusing the player of cheating.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Dealer keeps showing people my cards

Might wanna use the extra time to work on your command of the english language.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Tommy Angelo on \"I Want To See That Hand\"

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Some of you guys might want to read esteemed 2+2 poster Tommy Angelo's thoughts on the "I Want to See That Hand" rule.. We also had at least one long thread on this a few years back but who has the time to search for it?

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good article. I agree with his reasoning.

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Old 11-14-2005, 07:21 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Re: I Do Not Think Asking to See Someone\'s Hands is Rude

Most players quit asking to see hands when it is explained to them that what they are doing is rude and is accusing the player of cheating.
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According to you and tradition. Screw tradition. I want to see if they are bullying with trash or if they are legit. If that makes me unpopular with the table then that is the price I pay.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: Dealer keeps showing people my cards

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Try mucking a winner.

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hehe.. slow roll them. nice. hold your cards out ready to muck until they say "I want to see all hands". Then turn over the nuts.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:26 PM
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Most players quit asking to see hands when it is explained to them that what they are doing is rude and is accusing the player of cheating.
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According to you and tradition. Screw tradition. I want to see if they are bullying with trash or if they are legit. If that makes me unpopular with the table then that is the price I pay.

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Also you have to realize that if an experienced floorman sees (or is told by a delaer or a player) what is going on you will lose the priviledge of over asking.
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