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Old 10-06-2005, 04:58 AM
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Of all philosophers, Nietzsche is perhaps most maligned through lightweight scholarship and reactionary jitterbugging


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He made himself an easy target. And if I've misstated any position of his, please enlighten me.
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Old 10-06-2005, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: Herr Little Freddie Nietzche

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Of all philosophers, Nietzsche is perhaps most maligned through lightweight scholarship and reactionary jitterbugging


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He made himself an easy target...

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LOL – what a way to start my day. Touché, is all I can think to say here.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:52 PM
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I've never heard one


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Calling God a prick qualifies.

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If a terrorist was about to push a button & destroy Vatican City (some fancy nulear device, for instance)... and says the only way he'll not do it is if you call God a prick within 10 seconds. The Pope says: "God says it's OK". Then... would it be OK?
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:06 PM
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I've never heard one


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Calling God a prick qualifies.

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If a terrorist was about to push a button & destroy Vatican City (some fancy nulear device, for instance)... and says the only way he'll not do it is if you call God a prick within 10 seconds. The Pope says: "God says it's OK". Then... would it be OK?

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Unfair question - NotReady is not Catholic. Don't answer that question, NotReady! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes

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Then... would it be OK?


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Perhaps. Motive is the essence of sin. I wouldn't really know till the situation came up. It's mostly a matter of conscience.

You can multiply moral dilemmas till the cows come home. I can't give you an absolute on any of them. I'm not your judge.
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:50 PM
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Don't answer that question, NotReady!


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Heh. I might spare even the Vatican.
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Old 10-06-2005, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes

I have been holding off on posting in these arguments, but can stand it no longer. Sure, devote the first day of class in a biology course to an overview of the scientific method, being sure to delineate between a theory and a hypothesis in a scientific context. Devote the first 20 minutes of the next day showing how ideas such as "intelligent design" do not even meet the requisites for a hypothesis, much less a theory.

Of course barring that, devote equal time to the study of "intelligent falling". (gotta love The Onion)
Intelligent Falling
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: Herr Little Freddie Nietzche

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He made himself an easy target.

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I disagree. He was made an easy target by sloppy scholarship, poor translation, and misappropriation of his philosophy. There is nothing easy about Nietzsche; You don't "do" Nietzsche after a latte and cake.

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If God is dead, all is permitted - Nietzsche, et al.

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And if I've misstated any position of his, please enlighten me.

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You haven't stated a position.

I wonder if you are a reader of Altizer or Van Buren (who were both trendy for a time)?
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Old 10-07-2005, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Herr Little Freddie Nietzche

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I wonder if you are a reader of Altizer or Van Buren (who were both trendy for a time)?


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No.

My position is that Freddie's philosophy produces what I was talking about in this thread - if God doesn't exist we are beyond good and evil and should therefore abandon teleology and morals.
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Old 10-07-2005, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: Herr Little Freddie Nietzche

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I wonder if you are a reader of Altizer or Van Buren (who were both trendy for a time)?


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No.

My position is that Freddie's philosophy produces what I was talking about in this thread - if God doesn't exist we are beyond good and evil and should therefore abandon teleology and morals.

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The Mr Spock solution. Feelings are not rational so it is rational to pretend they don't exist.

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