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Old 08-25-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default What\'s a good winrate?

I've read about 3BB/100 being good.
Is that equal to being $3 plus in a 1/2 game after 100 hands or 10 orbits?
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:50 PM
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I've read about 3BB/100 being good.
Is that equal to being $3 plus in a 1/2 game after 100 hands or 10 orbits?

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no, 3BB/100 is $6 at $1/2 limits, not $3. and yes, 3BB is pretty good for limit hold em at that level, though higher is possible too.
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: What\'s a good winrate?

I thought 3BB = 3 big blinds and thus being $3 since the big blind is $1 in a $1/2? Is that not correct?
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: What\'s a good winrate?

a BB (capital letters) stands for Big Bets. in limit hold em that would be the mimimum amount to come in on 4th and 5th streets. so 3BB's at $1/2 LHE = $6.

a bb (lower case) stands for big blinds. in no-limit and pot-limit games, 3bb at $1/2 still = $6.

however, 3BB's is a lot better than 3bb's. i'd say your long term win rate at NL should be at least twice as many bb's as BB's for the equivalent LHE rate.
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: What\'s a good winrate?

BB = big bets (i.e., the turn and river bets) when talking about limit wins and losses.

It means 'big blind' when talking about position at the table.
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: What\'s a good winrate?

It's 3 big bets not big blinds thus 3bb/100 at 1/2 would be 6
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: What\'s a good winrate?

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I've read about 3BB/100 being good.
Is that equal to being $3 plus in a 1/2 game after 100 hands or 10 orbits?

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Looks like others have addressed your BB vs. bb question. The /100 means 100 hands. Orbits are different because there might not always be 10 players playing so it will usually be more than 10 orbits. If the table is 9max, 6max or just not full it will be significantly more than 10 orbits.

3BB/100 is quite good and generally only sustainable at pretty low limits. If you're at 3BB/100 after 30,000 or 40,000 hands I would almost certainly look into sliding up to the next level.
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: What\'s a good winrate?

I've played roughly 700 hands per day for 30 days straight. Lets say 20.000 hands.
I started at $2 and now have $50. Been playing .05/.10 all this time.

I still belive it's more luck than anything though as I'm new to poker. I'm reading a lot between games and I think I improve every day by reading SSHE and this board.

Maybe I should try .10/.20 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But it's not about the money, I want to master the game, so playing at a really low level is easier since I'm not afraid of losing money.

Thanks for clearing up bb and BB for me.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:12 PM
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I've played roughly 700 hands per day for 30 days straight. Lets say 20.000 hands.
I started at $2 and now have $50. Been playing .05/.10 all this time.

I still belive it's more luck than anything though as I'm new to poker. I'm reading a lot between games and I think I improve every day by reading SSHE and this board.

Maybe I should try .10/.20 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But it's not about the money, I want to master the game, so playing at a really low level is easier since I'm not afraid of losing money.


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I would go ahead and start sprinkling in the .10/.20 game if I were you. Don't move to it exclusively just yet, just try it out. I'm not sure at those levels if the game will necessarily really get all that much *harder*, but it will start to change. I don't find much difference in the amount of effort it takes me to beat 1/2 over .5/1 for instance, but the games frequently play a lot differently. It takes some time to adjust to the optimal strategies for this new set of opponents. Give yourself a chance to ease into it.

If it turns out you're still doing well at .10/.20 you'll be glad you moved up earlier rather than later since you'll likely almost double your profit as I doubt your winrate will drop that much. At this point you may be learning fast enough it won't go down at all. If you do experience a bad run of luck or have trouble adjusting, just drop back down to .05/.10 and build back up for a bit.

Never get too comfortable, never go broke - that way you don't bust, but you don't stagnate from playing it too safe either. I think you have to continue to challenge yourself if your goal is improvement. Some risk is a good thing.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: What\'s a good winrate?

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I've played roughly 700 hands per day for 30 days straight. Lets say 20.000 hands.
I started at $2 and now have $50. Been playing .05/.10 all this time.

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So you've made 480 BB in 20,000 hands (assuming that's all poker winnings without bonuses mixed in). That's about 2.4BB/100. That's not bad, but I would think there's more to be made there. I never played at that level, so I don't know for sure what an expert player can expect to make there. People talk about 3BB/100 or more at $.50/1.

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I still belive it's more luck than anything though as I'm new to poker. I'm reading a lot between games and I think I improve every day by reading SSHE and this board.

Maybe I should try .10/.20 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I'd suggest moving up and continuing to study. If you run into problems at $.10/.20, you can always move back down.
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