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Old 05-16-2005, 11:46 AM
mtgordon mtgordon is offline
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Default Good AA laydown?

MP2 is 73/13/2 through 15 hands
UTG is 53/3/4 through 38 hands

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero folds, UTG calls.

River: (12.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

Correct or incorrect to laydown on the turn?
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Old 05-16-2005, 12:06 PM
CourtJester CourtJester is offline
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Default Re: Good AA laydown?

UTG i might believe but after MP2's raise, i believe that he almost has to have a 6 with his LAG read, theres no way 5.5:1 is good enuff to call and showdown, i think it was a fine fold
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Old 05-16-2005, 12:39 PM
Rev. Good Will Rev. Good Will is offline
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Default Re: Good AA laydown?

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UTG i might believe but after MP2's raise, i believe that he almost has to have a 6 with his LAG read, theres no way 5.5:1 is good enuff to call and showdown, i think it was a fine fold

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being a LAG, I would respect MP2's raises less

besides the point that MP2's sample size blows
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Old 05-16-2005, 12:43 PM
Rev. Good Will Rev. Good Will is offline
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Default Re: Good AA laydown?

I don't trust the reads you have.

what types of hands have villian's shown down?
how did they play them?

I'd kick my cat, and call.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Good AA laydown?

Dear God! How did you do this fold on the turn?
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Good AA laydown?

I'm leaning more towards to fold. When it gets to you on the turn you are facing two bets and only getting 4.1:1 pot odds. MP2 has been calling the whole way and then suddenly raises. The real question here is what are MP2's raising standards?

You also, don't know at this point that UTG is going to slow down. Your paying 2 (or more if UTG re-raised) to see one card and might just have to call 2+ more to get to a showdown.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Good AA laydown?

Having to call 2 BB cold against 2 bettors put you into a losing situation - good fold. You'd be facing not only the 2 turn bbs but also the posssiblity of a re-raise, and a river bet or two. At that point your American Airlines ticket just got really expensive and stands a strong possiblity of being 2nd or 3rd best hand given the betting and the board, besides you don't have even close to the odds to stick around.
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Old 05-16-2005, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Good AA laydown?

Not convinced he has a 6. Recently I've seen a lot of people raise when they pick up a flush draw on the turn.
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Old 05-16-2005, 05:31 PM
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Not convinced he has a 6. Recently I've seen a lot of people raise when they pick up a flush draw on the turn.

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Old 05-16-2005, 06:11 PM
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MP2 is 73/13/2 through 15 hands
UTG is 53/3/4 through 38 hands


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Dumb newbie question: What do these numbers mean? Thanks.
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