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Old 12-18-2005, 02:05 AM
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Default Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

This was partly inspired by a post in General Theory as to whether casino pros were dinosaurs and partly by D. N.'s latest blog entry where he detailed his disdain with his opponent after he was brought down to a short stack. It seems that the internet has created a new player mold that eclipses those old foheys which is why you have players like Giga and Takeover placing so deep in their first few big live tournies.

I don't know if it is the immense concentration or the number of hands they are seeing but it seems to me that the reign of the old pros has ended.

I would be interested to hear your opinions.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:21 AM
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Are some internet players pros?


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Yes.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:24 AM
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And casino pros will always be around. Polltard.
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

ever consider that the internet pros and casino pros are the same people except for the pimple faced kids who can't yet buy beer.
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

It's hard for internet players not to do well when you have some fields (such as WPT Aruba) where 95%+ of the participants won a satilite online.
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Old 12-18-2005, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

I'm gonna ahead and assume you're specifically talking about "live pros" Live prose.

Anyways, there is no doubt that playing like 10k tourney hands a day with thorough analysis of play will build some very young and very tough tourney players. At the same time however, placing deep in their first few live tourneys requires a great amount of luck as well IMO.

No disrespect of course, as I know some of the young tourney guys like Giga and ZJ are very good players.
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:56 AM
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I think in 10-15 years all the pros will become replaced with internet pros. They are much better, have more experience because they have seen much more hands and tells are overrated anyways.
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Old 12-18-2005, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

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I think in 10-15 years all the pros will become replaced with internet pros. They are much better, have more experience because they have seen much more hands and tells are overrated anyways.

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Ya, in 15 years new players will be the best. Just like it is in all sports (baseball, football, basketball, etc.) or competitions (chess, science, music, etc.) and has been with poker in the past. Internet has nothing to do with it.
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It's hard for internet players not to do well when you have some fields (such as WPT Aruba) where 95%+ of the participants won a satilite online.

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nh
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

Experienced casino pros will always have an advantage over strictly internet players. There are skills developed live that are not developed online. The impact of online play is to accelerate the learning curve tremendously, and online players will move much more quickly up the ranks of casino pros when they make the migration.

In 10 more years there will be no such thing as a pure casino pro.
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