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Old 12-06-2005, 08:59 AM
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Default JJ - Overcall on river?

I'm always unsure about river folds like this. The pot's big and I later regreted the fold. Thoughts?

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MP3 is unknown, only read on him is his played 3/5 hands thus far

UTG is loose/passive - 40/3/0.5 after 340 hands

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.17 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

River: (9.17 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11.17 BB.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:31 AM
Bill C Bill C is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Overcall on river?

Bet the river, fold to a raise.

Your check on the river portrays weakness and invites a bet from a player(s) you may have beat. And UTG, seeing this confusion may assume that MP3 is stealing and call for one more with something like a small pair.

Just my $.02 worth...
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Overcall on river?

Bet/fold or check/ call
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Overcall on river?

Definitely a scary river and I like the check/call. You're getting 11-1 from the pot. make the call.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Overcall on river?

I think c/c is better than bet/call. What do you expect to call our bet here that doesn't beat us?

c/c allows the flush draw to bet at us if this was MP3. To be honest I am not so happy about the overcall but I think getting the odds you are getting you can call.

If I was playing I would probably have folded, thought about it, then wondered why I would have folded.

I would have been annoyed if the pot was lost because I folded a winner but I don't think it would have been a HUGE error.

I probably end up check/calling.

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