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Old 10-14-2005, 03:18 AM
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>many more people than usual are monitoring newsgroups

I will try to be clearer in future posts, sorry.
I have heard that PartyPoker is monitoring this newsgroup because they are concerned as to what the response is to their changes. What affiliates and players alike think of their player reward plan, what the buzz is on the skins thing, etc.

When I say PartyPoker, I am sure that one of the owners is not carrying his laptop with him so he can check 2+2 in between meeting with department heads, but it is possible that people there have been told to come in and see what the consensus is.
Knowing that, it really makes sense not to have things in here that will hurt our cause. Party wants their players back - simple as that.

Someone posted - what does this all mean to the player.
This is simple - if you are a player that is with an affiliate, please register under that affiliate once their affiliation with Party is reestablished, since you will have upside potential.

There is no cloak and dagger, nothing sinister - just sensible reasons why we all should just not discuss things until Party has finalized their changes and we know what we can say and how we can say it.

If we know that it annoys them when they see affiliates discuss rakeback, then why do it? Why advertise it if it pisses them off? We need their support and will get it if we give them ours.

And, I will publicly state that if I have a high limit player generating me a lot of income, I'll do what I can to show my appreciation. One thing I cannot do and will not do is give him rakeback - because PartyPoker.com does not allow it.

I do not think I can make this any clearer than that.
If it is not allowed and I cannot give it, there is no reason to discuss it.
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:19 AM
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at the least, hoepfully this will stop people from posting their stupid worthless opinions that I couldn't give a [censored] less about
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:21 AM
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This all makes far more sense. Thanks.

(FWIW I think Party have ALWAYS monitored these boards carefully, they may have just cared less.)

Lori
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:27 AM
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Earlier, I was trying to be more subtle about all this

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I may be mistaken, but didn't you start all this with the "PM me" thread?

Lori

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I don't think I "started all this" but yes, I made an attempt to make any possible dealings more private as opposed to public, and I don't regret it*.

*although it only lasted ~10 minutes lol
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:43 AM
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Just to prove Al's point about Party monitoring this board, the fact that Mike O'Malley posts here (or at least in the internet forum) should tell us all that everything here gets back to the top.

At times, it serves as a direct link to the worst offenders of Party's policies. All they have to do is look at this board and it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Tuco.
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Old 10-14-2005, 04:08 AM
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but is Spain so bad that one would choose to stay aligned with Great Britain rather than the proximate European neighbor?

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Yes among the million reasons is the massively weakened property rights they would have under Spanish law.

Mack
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Old 10-14-2005, 04:13 AM
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but is Spain so bad that one would choose to stay aligned with Great Britain rather than the proximate European neighbor?

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Yes among the million reasons is the massively weakened property rights they would have under Spanish law.

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ahh...that makes sense. I'm starting to like Gibraltar more. Property rights, one of the many good things the British passed on to the USA.
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Old 10-14-2005, 04:20 PM
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And, I will publicly state that if I have a high limit player generating me a lot of income, I'll do what I can to show my appreciation. One thing I cannot do and will not do is give him rakeback - because PartyPoker.com does not allow it.

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Old 10-14-2005, 05:03 PM
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Please STOP talking about Party rakeback in here, ok?
There IS NO rakeback at Party! Now or ever! Believe me - Rakeback at Party will never happen!


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Old 10-14-2005, 05:49 PM
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have heard that PartyPoker is monitoring this newsgroup because they are concerned as to what the response is to their changes. What affiliates and players alike think of their player reward plan, what the buzz is on the skins thing, etc.


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Hi Al,
Nice to meet you. I'm sure I have before, but just not under your present handle.

If Party Poker is reading this and in fact cares what I think about what they have done, I'm going to tell them here. I will try to be as constructive as possible.

Party's annual report stated that 70% of it's income comes from 10% of it's players. Even if multi tabling 2+2'rs accounted for only 1% of it's customer base, they would still generate a substantial amount of that 70% revenue. This has been discussed ad nauseum and if Dikshit can't do the math to figure it out, he's going to drive his little company into the dirt.

If Party is going to push their "Player Rewards" system to reward those players, than I will be at Pokerstars. The Pokerstars player reward system is much better. So is Ultimate Bet's. What's more, the addition of Casino games at Party is going to take money off the tables faster and make it harder for those high volume players to keep good games going.

For me personally, I am not an affiliate, I am just a guy who likes to play (and win) poker. Just as Party is only looking out for themselves, so am I. I have a real job and make quite a bit of change doing it, and am not quitting any time soon to play 10 tables all day at Party, so the issue I am primarily concerned with involves my time budget. I am inclined to play at the site which will make the best use of my time. If that is clearing a bonus, or finding a soft game, or getting rakeback, or getting enough points somewhere because I think their ball cap would be good to add to my collection, depends on the day and the mood I am in.

One thing is given. My multiple skin accounts with rakeback are not closed. My accounts with other poker rooms (with rakeback) all still exist. I have been hearing things from multiple sources and have kept pretty good tabs on what has been going on. I am not worried about what to do. But know Party Poker has a large mountain to climb if they want my business back. I'm not saying that they can't do it without rakeback. They can. But they need to start working on it NOW. One way is to consider how to compete for my time effectively with much better offerings from the market.

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