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Old 12-16-2005, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Can we have knowledge of the future?

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If you accept only deductive reasoning as being justified, then we cannot have knowledge of the future.

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Tomorrow, nothing will exist which is both red all over, and green all over.

This is a conclusion I arrived at through deductive means.
I know it to be true. Its about the future.

So to answer the OP's question, ya we can have knowledge about the future.

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I don't believe that knowledge of the future qualifies under the guidelines of justified true belief.
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: Can we have knowledge of the future?


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I don't believe that knowledge of the future qualifies under the guidelines of justified true belief.

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I just gave you an example.
Tomorrow, nothing will exist which is both red all over, and green all over.


I do believe it. Do you think it isn't true or that my belief isn't justified. Please explain.

Here is another one: A week from today there will be no squirrel which is fatter than itself.
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Can we have knowledge of the future?

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If you accept only deductive reasoning as being justified, then we cannot have knowledge of the future.

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Tomorrow, nothing will exist which is both red all over, and green all over.

This is a conclusion I arrived at through deductive means.
I know it to be true. Its about the future.

So to answer the OP's question, ya we can have knowledge about the future.

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Your statement isn't about the future. It's about word definitions.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Can we have knowledge of the future?

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If you accept only deductive reasoning as being justified, then we cannot have knowledge of the future.

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Tomorrow, nothing will exist which is both red all over, and green all over.

This is a conclusion I arrived at through deductive means.
I know it to be true. Its about the future.

So to answer the OP's question, ya we can have knowledge about the future.

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Your statement isn't about the future. It's about word definitions.

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No its a statement about a future state of affairs, ie the future. It requires some discussion of definitions to justify but thats not relevant to what it is about.

Take the statement: In the future pigs will fly.

Using your line of reasoning this statement is not about the future, its about definitions? (or maybe you would say pigs) It seems obvious to me its about both the future and pigs.
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: Can we have knowledge of the future?

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Can we have knowledge of the future?

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The problem with knowledge of the future is that it tends to be wrong a lot, kind of like science and memory. Oh, [censored]! Is that a black hole?

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Old 12-17-2005, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: Can we have knowledge of the future?

Specific knowledge of the future negates free will if the event is specific enough and sufficiently removed from the present to be influenced by the choices of others. It's either fortune tellers or free will, you choose.
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