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Old 12-07-2005, 07:01 AM
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hard to love his line when I don't know what he had [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Also I don't know the history between these two.

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Jason_t has a reputation as a nit, and I think likely an honest post-flop player. but i could be wrong. he also is rumored to give great head.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:08 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 K9s river vs Jason

Raising with air here is probably not be correct if the villian is betting with air, but it certainly is if he isn't bluffing. So against a random who will bet a busted flush draw, you should not raise unless you have the goods. It is probably a smart play to raise something like AQ [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] here as it should never be good if you just call. You are in a tough spot if he raises with AA/KK/AK/TT and 2 busted draws (AQ/AJ [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]). You are getting ~11:1 to call, but he is roughly 9:1 to have you beat here. Tough spot to be in. Can't really blame either action IMO.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 K9s river vs Jason

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hard to love his line when I don't know what he had [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Also I don't know the history between these two.

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Jason_t has a reputation as a nit, and I think likely an honest post-flop player. but i could be wrong. he also is rumored to give great head.

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One of these statements is false and the other, true.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:17 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 K9s river vs Jason

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hard to love his line when I don't know what he had [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Also I don't know the history between these two.

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Jason_t has a reputation as a nit, and I think likely an honest post-flop player. but i could be wrong. he also is rumored to give great head.

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One of these statements is false and the other, true.

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um, i count 3 statements. is the head one a given?
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 K9s river vs Jason

Shant -- check the river. I don't think Jason will check behind all that often; he'll make a value bet with whatever he's got. If he checks behind weakly, then it's with a hand he wouldn't call a river bet with (because he has AQ or something). After he bets, you can decide to c/r and fold to a 3-bet (bad line) or call (good line).
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 K9s river vs Jason

I love how people change the hands to make more interesting.

By the way, Shant, it's been a while since we've gone out drinking. That is a damn shame.
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:55 PM
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c/r the frop. Bet the turn.

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Against a strong player, I dont like this.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:48 PM
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Shant, did you know that it was jason that you were up against when this hand happened? cause if you did, then I call this river since any one of us recognize the wa/wb line that you took, and though jason is a tight player, this would be a good spot for him to bluff you with a hand like JJ or QQ
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 K9s river vs Jason

Yes I knew it was Jason I bet intending to call (maybe c/c is better) Jason didn't raise, he called. After the hand he said he thought about raising me with his 99, but didn't. I told him I intended to call, and he asked me to post it with that river action.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:27 PM
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Yes I knew it was Jason I bet intending to call (maybe c/c is better) Jason didn't raise, he called. After the hand he said he thought about raising me with his 99, but didn't. I told him I intended to call, and he asked me to post it with that river action.

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And I didn't raise precisely because I thought, as the advice has shown here, that he should call. I thought it was an interesting spot though.
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