4 handed live hand against justin a

[mike l.]

i had Kd6d in the sb in a live 15-30 live game. the other two players in the game were super tight and just giving up there blinds hand after hand. justin a openraised from the button, i flat called, bb called.

the flop was Jc7d4h. checked to justin who bet, i called, bb folded.

the turn was 2d. i bet, he called.

the river was an offsuit 3. i check, justin bet, i called.

[gaming_mouse]

1. Do you have fold equity on that turn bet?

2. How often do you decide to showdown K high like this in SH games? I rarely do -- is that a mistake?

[Jeff W]

Betting the turn makes it easy for him to get to showdown with Ace high.

I can't see you being good on the river 1/8.

Edit: Also, I think you should fold the flop with the other player in the pot.

[gaming_mouse]

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Betting the turn makes it easy for him to get to showdown with Ace high.

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I don't understand this comment. How would checking make it harder for him?

[Justin A]

This hand is interesting from my perspective also, but we can get into that after the results are revealed.

[Jeff W]

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Betting the turn makes it easy for him to get to showdown with Ace high.

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I don't understand this comment. How would checking make it harder for him?

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Should have been more explicit--Betting vs. Check-raising.

[gaming_mouse]

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Should have been more explicit--Betting vs. Check-raising.

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but does justin always bet an A high hand on this turn? rather, does he have AND bet/fold A high here often enough for a c/r to be profitable (ie, 28% of the time)?

[chio]

preflop i would 3bet. if you're going to play K6s from the SB, at least take control of the hand so that when he is stealing with garbage he can fold to your flop bet

flop i would fold, but i think a c/r is better than just a call. again fold equity on the turn is a big consideration here

turn i would c/r, but i don't think a bet is that bad

river i would bet or check fold

[NLSoldier]

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Should have been more explicit--Betting vs. Check-raising.

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but does justin always bet an A high hand on this turn? rather, does he have AND bet/fold A high here often enough for a c/r to be profitable (ie, 28% of the time)?

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he doesnt ahve to fold it 28% of the time cuz mike will often draw out even when justin calls.

[Jeff W]

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but does justin always bet an A high hand on this turn? rather, does he have AND bet/fold A high here often enough for a c/r to be profitable (ie, 28% of the time)?

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He doesn't always have A high, but if he checks it he is giving a free card when we're a ~2:1 dog and if he bets it, I think he's folding often enough for the check-raise to be profitable.

I don't know where you got the 28% figure--the check-raise doesn't have to be successful nearly that often. Quick calculation says 13%.