Big blind crap turns into two pair

brasse · #1 08-23-2005, 03:13 PM

Ok, here goes! I have been playing for a year know and I am still struggling to become a winning player. What do you all think of this hand? Should I be more aggressive on the flop? I do not think villain holds AK since there was no raise before the flop.

Any comments will be helpful!

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 calls, CO (Villain) calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP3 folds, Villain calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Villain calls, SB folds.

River: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

:.:: brasse

imported_The Vibesman · #2 08-23-2005, 03:16 PM

Raise the flop. Bottom two pair is strong and you're usually ahead, but it's a pretty vulnerable hand.

nickg1532 · #3 08-23-2005, 03:16 PM

i would just raise the flop, i don't think you need to get too fancy here

Rev. Good Will · #4 08-23-2005, 03:18 PM

I religiously protect my flopped bottom 2pair to prevent it from getting counterfeit. You missed out on a golden opertunity

krimson · #5 08-23-2005, 03:18 PM

Raise the flop to protect your hand. middle/low 2-pair is drawn out on too easily, you do not want overcall's.

TeeVeeDude · #6 08-23-2005, 03:24 PM

Grunching...

Raise the flop! You probably have the best hand, get the money in now while you're ahead. Just calling gives everyone a chance to draw out on you, which appears to be what happened.

detruncate · #7 08-23-2005, 03:32 PM

The flop isn't that scary, your hand is vulnerable to counterfeiting, you have a bet from your immediate right. I raise.

The way you played it, our river decision would probably depend on who we're up against. The T is a moderatly bad card -- it makes several straights and is a likely 2-pair candidate. I probably call vs an unknown to see what he has since it's probably close enough that I should consider calling anyway, but I don't hate a fold vs a predictable player.

brasse · #8 08-23-2005, 03:40 PM

Raising the flop seems to be the concensus so far. I'll try and resist the urge to slow play next time? =)

@bsolute_luck · #9 08-23-2005, 04:23 PM

i know everyone is saying to raise the flop...which isn't a bad idea really, but do we really need to in this small pot?

gutshots shouldn't be calling. i guess we may fold an OESD, which would be good. but i would think most people are drawing ~5 outs, which the pot is too small to be calling.

just a question.

aces_dad · #10 08-23-2005, 04:52 PM

I do think many gutshuts call for one bet here but not 2 since they don't consider it's a small pot. I also think given our equity edge we should push now and as you say, it's not the worst thing to have people drawing to weak draws without the odds to do so.