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Old 04-28-2005, 10:04 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Would be amusing to bring a few $1000 chips to the $1/$2 at Wynn and it won't look so threatening at first when surrounded by $200 in $1's.

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For the record if you hide your chips they don't play. I have ruled on that point when a player had some $500 chips hidden in the center of his chip stacks.
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Old 04-28-2005, 10:05 PM
whiskeytown whiskeytown is offline
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Default Re: $2 chips for 8-16

so does Canterbury Park in Minnesota....

Where the Wynn's card room manager came from and where I understand a few of our dealers came from, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see you guys using $2 chips.

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Old 04-28-2005, 10:10 PM
Trainwreck Trainwreck is offline
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Whose Jeff?

As far as hiding the chips and not playing, I basically meant hidden from RAILBIRDS.

At binions the bills are there, but as a stack, how can you know amount?
They should make them convert them to chips...

>TW<
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Old 04-28-2005, 11:19 PM
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Out of question could anyone tell any diffrence with the chips? I work for an AV trade association and am taking a tour of the Wynn about their tech systems in June and those chips seem pretty cool technologically. Was just wondering if the chips in the chips were noticable and if they had recievers in the poker room (doubtful) or the BJ or roulette tables that anyone noticed?
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:00 AM
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just curious, but if you were to buy in for a huge amount, why would you want to hide it? isnt the goal to intimidate weaker opponents with your bigger stack? if you are hiding it then whats the point of buying in for more?
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:50 AM
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just curious, but if you were to buy in for a huge amount, why would you want to hide it? isnt the goal to intimidate weaker opponents with your bigger stack? if you are hiding it then whats the point of buying in for more?

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You have $600. I say all-in. You call, thinking you just called a $200 bet. Surprise, I had a $500 chip hidden. You just got screwed.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:58 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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I have heard that there are several evil doers who hide stacks of $100's under their chip trays

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You simply don't put up with these A-holes. If the game has these people in it, you either make the dealer force them to abide by proper rules and ettiquette, or you go play elsewhere.

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Old 04-29-2005, 01:11 PM
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I went there last night. Supremely overcrowded, maybe by as many as 3 tables. Other than that it was nice. Lighting was dim. Comps are $1-$1.50/hr depending on the limit you are playing. Electronic board. Shufflers. I recognized some good dealers.

They were spreading mostly 4-8 last night. 1 to 2 8-16 games, a few 15-30's. Some LL stud and Omaha8 as well. $2 chips for the $8-16.

I am disappointed that they spread 3-chip 2-chip games, but given the desire to compete against Bellagio and the room manager coming from a 3-chip 2-chip house I'm not surprised. That's really unfortunate unless they then go to a $50-100 and a $100-200 instead of $80-160. There may well not be the demand for that many games at those limits though. One would think that Commerce migrating to solely 40-80 after spreading both 30-60 and 40-80 would be the model for other rooms, but I guess not.

Staff was very friendly, etc. but you'd expect nothing less on opening night.

So to recap:

Negatives:
Cramped
Spreading the wrong structure games in middle limits.

Positives:
Everything else unless you dislike dim lighting.

As for the rest of the Casino, it's extremely nice. Kind of like Bellagio on steroids. The inside of the mountain in the front is absolutely the bomb.

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Last night I went again after the Mirage 40-80 broke around 8:00. I brought the two remaining players from the broken game with me. When I got to Wynn there were two full 40-80s and when I left a few hours later they were about to spread a 3rd, and had 9 names on the 80-160 interest list. The games were comprised of a few unknowns, 70% Mirage players and the rest Bellagio players. I talked with every Mirage regular and we all agreed to keep supporting Wynn as long as they spread the 40. I also talked with the shift manager Mike and expressed my feelings regarding spreading 40 vs. 30. There were a ton of Mirage players at all limits. At one point, Dennis, the Mirage shift manager actually walked into the room to see where his games had gone.

Lighting at the tables is fine, it just seems dimmer from the outside. Plus, they spread the 40 up top and those 6 tables are spaced very comfortably. We also talked them into reducing the 40 games from 10 handed to 9 handed, which helps.

Only negative is that there were some dealers who may well have been dealing for the first time ever out of school. Considering the rumors of the large number of applicants, I am pretty amazed by this. Several didn't even know what "time collection" was, let alone how to make change. But everything else, especially management's willingness to listen to the players, is so superior to the Mirage, I'm willing to deal with a little inconvenience from the dealers. Though I do think it would be advisable for the room to do what the Nuggett did last year by putting the more experienced dealers in the top section rotation.

I do think that if they keep spreading 40-80 they will get a regular 80-160 going. 3 40-80's last night is dang near critical mass to just naturally produce an 80-160 game. If we get four 40's going tonight, I'd be shocked if there wasn't an 80.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:57 PM
BigBaitsim (milo) BigBaitsim (milo) is offline
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$2 chips for the $8-16.

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I am surprised that I am the first one to point out the best thing about Clark's post... a 4 chip small bet - 8chip big bet structure is GREAT for action. The pots will be huge, the chip stacks will be huge, and the gamblers will flock to this game. I predict this game will be a huge success for the Wynn, I am happy to see them experimenting by thinking outside the traditional Vegas box. For those of you who have been following another thread here in the B&M forum, recently the Trop in AC just did the same by using $2.50 pink chips in their newly revived 10/20 game.

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Love the 4-chip games at CP. Bets are also easier to make in little piles of 4 or 8 chips. I'd hate to watch some Vegas drunk trying to 3-bet the flop while figuring out how many chips of each type he'd need (never mind, I'd LOVE to see that).
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:48 PM
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Can you explain why you dislike the 2 chhip 3 chip blind structure in the middle limits?
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