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Old 12-22-2005, 11:39 PM
ChrisCo ChrisCo is offline
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Default Tough spot with two pair

Villain is a solid player with stats of 33.3 vpip and 14% PFR. He hasn't gotten out of line at all. I have been playing somewhat loose but nothing to extravagent that would cause people to play back at me with weaker holdings.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($347.80)
Hero ($392.60)
CO ($263.40)
Button ($512.40)
SB ($243.20)
BB ($112.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, Hero calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $10</font>, Button calls $10, SB (poster) calls $8, BB calls $6, UTG calls $6, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, UTG calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $100</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero ???

So whats your play on the turn and plan for the river(if you get there)?
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:09 AM
Bill Smith Bill Smith is offline
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Default Re: Tough spot with two pair

Absolutely hate the preflop call. Raise to isolate or fold and find a better spot.

I think you have to fold this on the turn. Flat call preflop, checks through on the flop then min reraises reeks of set goodness.
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:33 AM
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Fold &gt; Raise &gt; Call preflop imo. Calling is very bad imo. As for the turn, he could have 99/22 here, I guess 9/7 and A9 are also possible as he was on the button. 33% isn't exactly supertight, so I won't discount those. Out of those the only thing you beat is 9/7 , and I think a set is more likely here. You say he hasn't gotten out of line, so I can't imagine he would be checking behind with that many people in the hand with just a big ace. This problem was easily avoid preflop, though.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:32 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: Tough spot with two pair

Fold PF.

Flop check is good.

Turn raise is good. Easy fold to re-raise.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:24 AM
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Yeah I think he has a set here about 90% of the time here too. I was kicking myself for calling the min raise when I looked back at the hand but I insta folded when a blank hit on the river and he fired for 200.

Is limping there really that bad? Even with donkeys at your table at don't play well postflop?
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:42 AM
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Easy fold after the turn raise. It's players that will refuse to accept that they're hand is no good here who will drive themselves crazy.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot with two pair

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Is limping there really that bad?

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Yes.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:56 AM
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Is limping there really that bad?

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Yes.

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A7o... wow. I'm honestly surprised you are asking that question.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot with two pair

fold to mini raise, or certainly fold to river bet as you did.

A7o is always bad
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot with two pair

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Is limping there really that bad?

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Just ask yourself these questions:
What am I hoping to hit?
What worse hands pay me off when I hit it?

Yes, it's really, really bad. A7o is complete trash.
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