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Old 05-01-2005, 08:57 PM
Lurshy Lurshy is offline
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Default Re: 70 left. still hangin

nr\evermind, discussed in chat box
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: 70 left. still hangin

I was the CO in that hand, I specifically waited to push on his BB because he was the only person I thought would have remote chance of folding. I do not think his fold was as bad as you guys think, I will elaborate later.
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:06 PM
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I was the CO in that hand, I specifically waited to push on his BB because he was the only person I thought would have remote chance of folding. I do not think his fold was as bad as you guys think, I will elaborate later.

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you're Halipimp?

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Old 05-01-2005, 09:09 PM
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yep that's me!
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:18 PM
SoBeDude SoBeDude is offline
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yep that's me!

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you bastard flopping that set of 7's against my AK when I flopped a king!

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Old 05-01-2005, 09:32 PM
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I didn't have much to work with, I think I had 1 successful blind steal the whole tourney...anyways for the hand where you are in BB. Everyone was screamin you have odds to call blah blah blah. 11k more to call when you have a stack of what was it 40 k? If you call and lose which odds are you will with 32o your stack is now small enough that it will be very difficult to steal blinds form any other stack at that table. Where if you save the 11k it could get a big stack to fold to an all in blind steal later that orbit. Anyways poker is not always numbers guys you gotta remember that! I am not saying I would have folded but it is not as clear cut as u guys made it out to be gl to you I hope you finish second....my good buddy is still alive.
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 70 left. still hangin

Interestingly, when I talked to Howard Ledderer on Full Tilt about this very subject, he assured me that you should always follow the pot odds, and it IS in fact always about the numbers; even if the extra chips you save by not calling means being able to steal blinds. I presented him with this situation:

You are stealing many blinds because you're at a fairly easy table, and then on one hand you steal from the button with 97o and get played back at by the BB, putting you all in, you are getting 3.5:1 odds on a call what do you do? He says it's an easy call.

I agree with you but just relaying what Howard thinks on the subject, and I wonder what guru's think about this.

EDIT: just to be clear, he felt very strongly about this
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:48 PM
TheTimeIsUp TheTimeIsUp is offline
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What a call!!!

PokerStars Game #1622011647: Tournament #7058449, Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (20000/40000) - 2005/05/01 - 22:43:13 (ET)
Table '7058449 169' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: Buster Love (2524039 in chips)
Seat 5: Dudley33 (2487641 in chips)
Seat 8: ramco (401470 in chips)
Seat 9: C.K. (1001850 in chips)
Buster Love: posts the ante 2000
Dudley33: posts the ante 2000
ramco: posts the ante 2000
C.K.: posts the ante 2000
ramco: posts small blind 20000
C.K.: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Buster Love: folds
Dudley33: raises 40000 to 80000
ramco: folds
C.K.: calls 40000
*** FLOP *** [Jh Ks 3c]
C.K.: checks
Dudley33: bets 200000
C.K.: raises 719850 to 919850 and is all-in
Dudley33: calls 719850
*** TURN *** [Jh Ks 3c] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [Jh Ks 3c 3s] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
C.K.: shows [Td Qs] (a pair of Threes)
Dudley33: shows [Tc Th] (two pair, Tens and Threes)
Dudley33 collected 2027700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2027700 | Rake 0
Board [Jh Ks 3c 3s 5c]
Seat 3: Buster Love folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Dudley33 (button) showed [Tc Th] and won (2027700) with two pair, Tens and Threes
Seat 8: ramco (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: C.K. (big blind) showed [Td Qs] and lost with a pair of Threes
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:51 PM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: 70 left. still hangin

Is anybody else watching this???

Dudley(2.9million) just folded an all-in bet on the flop for 27K! He gave Ramco a 500K pot when Ramco bet ALL IN with 27K!! WOW.
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:53 PM
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Is anybody else watching this???

Dudley(2.9million) just folded an all-in bet on the flop for 27K! He gave Ramco a 500K pot when Ramco bet ALL IN with 27K!! WOW.

[/ QUOTE ]I just saw that as well. Buster is going crazy over it, as I imagine I would be as well. Crazy stuff.
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