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Old 07-17-2005, 03:24 PM
Revid Revid is offline
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<font color="green"> This article is from the Sacramento Bee written by Marcos Breton. I copied it here so you dont have to subscribe but if you want the link to the actual article here it is:
Marcos Breton: If poker is sport, it's time to fold

My reaction to it is that he is very uninformed about the subject matter. Which kinda makes him a bad journalist. He says he does not want poker on his sports page and one of those reasons seems to be because poker players are immoral. If you ask me NBA and MLB players are also not the best role models.
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Poker is not a sport, but it's all over the sports pages. It's all over ESPN. It's all over Bravo and Fox and even the pages of my own paper.

All of a sudden, at all hours of the day and night, we're seeing corpulent, pasty guys with bad skin and bad attitudes hunched around sleazy tables like derby-wearing mutts in a dime-store painting.

Who are these people? Better yet, who cares?

Why are they on my TV screen? Why are they in my paper? What does it say when poker ratings on ESPN are almost as high at 3 a.m. as they are during waking hours?

That's right: Poker is watched by the thousands across America in the dead of night.

Some might call that a fetish. And if not that, what does one call playing poker for hours on a computer?

A new opiate for the masses? A prelude to downloading porn?

Obviously, it's called a sign of the times.

"I think (poker) has all the elements of what it takes to be a big deal," said Keri Potts, an ESPN spokesperson.

Potts and ESPN would know. Poker now draws more than a million households per viewing, a staggering achievement of programming muscle considering it is a sedentary game played at a table like Parcheesi.

This revolution apparently started two years ago, when the World Series of Poker on ESPN tapped America's vein of addiction, elevating anonymous schmoes like Chris Moneymaker (yes, his real name) into supposed cult figures.

Moneymaker, you see, turned a $40 tournament entry fee into a $2.5 million payday when he prevailed over more than 800 players.

This is, of course, the heartbeat fueling games of chance: the Hail Mary hope of the big score for the dog-faced Everyman.

It's the bedrock upon which Las Vegas - and ESPN poker ratings - are built.

Steve Lipscomb, creator of the World Poker Tour, described the bonanza this way to The Bee last year:

"Even if you have the desire and resources, you can't go play in any other major sports like the NFL or the NBA. ... But with poker, you can. It's a televised sport that anybody at home, on any given day, could have a chance to play for a major title with the top players."

Fine. You want to play online poker until your corneas bleed, go ahead. You want to gamble away your mortgage, that's up to you.

There is no problem as long as you call it what it is - a hobby, a way to blow off steam, the vice of a free society.

But that's not how poker is being sold now.

It's being jammed down our throats by the pimps of popular culture, crafted as thrilling competition when it's really not.

Go to a tournament and you'll see.

"It's like watching paint dry," Lipscomb told The Bee last year. "I'd just as soon stand in the corner and stare at the wall."

But it works on TV because ESPN filmmakers skillfully manipulate hours of nothing - madly cutting and pasting - to produce "great television."

In truth, it's just as phony as the "And1 Mixtape" basketball tour, which is a collection of bricks and bumbling passes distilled to heavily edited dunks and "street-ball attitude" for television.

It's not real, it's Memorex.

Such fakery was bad enough when ESPN cameras turned publicity-hungry bowlers into trash talking bozos, but now we're supposed to be impressed by a poker-playing doofus with wraparound sunglasses?

Seriously. Modern-day court jesters are being elevated alongside the Miguel Tejadas of the world by the likes of the New York Times, which on Friday described poker players this way:

"Among the game's breakout stars are Phil "The Poker Brat" Hellmuth. ... Men "The Master" Nguyen, who often sips beer at the table in a pose of nonchalance; and Chris "Jesus" Ferguson, whose long locks and dark beard help him resemble the popular depiction of Christ."

Boy, is that this week's sign of the coming of the apocalypse or what?

So let's review: Televised poker stinks because a game requiring no athletic ability, tied to gambling and played by chain-smoking, booze-swilling louts is being sold as culturally important.

It stinks because it's a game manipulated by television to seem more interesting than it is.

It stinks because it appeals to our worst instincts.

"In this day and age, if you put a television camera in a 7-Eleven, clerks would be giving each other high-fives after they sold a Slurpee," said Norman Chad, an ESPN poker "commentator" in the Times.

OK. This is America, people watch poker; the rest of us always can change the channel. No problem.

But keep poker off my sports page. And while I'm happy for the Elk Grove guy who took home seven figures in Vegas on Saturday, don't tell me his win is important.

It is to him and his family, but to a shrinking world that still values real athletic talent and genuine real athletic entertainment, it's not.
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

what a [censored]
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

Marcos Breton is an idiot.
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

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elevating anonymous schmoes like Chris Moneymaker (yes, his real name)

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All ye know, all ye need to know.
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

i agree with this guy 100% and im not joking.

poker is not a sport.

it shouldn't be on tv.

it should DEFINATELY not be on the sports pages.

the only thing i like about the current situation is that it drives more horrible playing people to the tables.

-Barron
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Old 07-17-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

A debate wether poker should be a sport or not is fine. That is not what this article is about, he is attacking poker. I think I am going to send him a link to The Charlie Tuttle Story
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Old 07-17-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

I read this in the morning's paper... just shook my head. This writer is regularly off the mark and complaining about something. Not very well respected, so this wasn't that surprising from him.
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

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A prelude to downloading porn?

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I don't think we have the poker boom to blame for this one. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

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i agree with this guy 100% and im not joking.

poker is not a sport.

it shouldn't be on tv.

it should DEFINATELY not be on the sports pages.

the only thing i like about the current situation is that it drives more horrible playing people to the tables.

-Barron

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Old 07-17-2005, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: Article: If poker is sport, it\'s time to fold

I don't think poker is a sport, but come on, this guy clearly just dislikes it and is venting. The fact is, kids are gathering in living rooms and kitchens all across the country every night to play because they saw it on TV. You can't argue with it, you can just bitch about it.
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