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Old 10-16-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

I think you fold here. Regardless of who wins the all-in you are pretty much assuring yourself at least 2nd, with a reasonable chance to push for first (chip count will be 2-1, hardly a terrible prospect). I think this is one of the rare times to just fold your way into a better position
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:27 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

Ok let get over with this thread.
NOT EVEN STANZEE IS FOLDING HERE, OK???? NEVER EVER FOLD AK ITM ON A PARTY SNG OMFG , 20% YOUR STACK IS ALREADY ON THE POT...OMG!!! JUST CALL!!!!!!!!.}
Thanks, I apologize all the shouting.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

[ QUOTE ]
Ok let get over with this thread.
NOT EVEN STANZEE IS FOLDING HERE, OK???? NEVER EVER FOLD AK ITM ON A PARTY SNG OMFG , 20% YOUR STACK IS ALREADY ON THE POT...OMG!!! JUST CALL!!!!!!!!.}
Thanks, I apologize all the shouting.

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yeah, what he said/yelled.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

interesting.

i like noah's post best, i think if i was the smallest stack there i would have folded.

However i called

player 1 showed At player 2 99

a T hit on the turn and i came in second.

with blinds that big im not sure how much of an edge i would have had heads up, if im even the best player there.

But i agree it is a close one.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

Thats what makes this an easy call. If the folders think they can outplay their opponents with these blinds, I think they are sadly mistaken. They are the ones being outplayed by folding too much.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

<<<<<< hitting head on computer, youre conclusion is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong. Look ,do whatever you want.
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:50 PM
theordinaryboy theordinaryboy is offline
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

what part/parts of the conclusion were wrong valuenzuela???

i see that this is an easy call for you, as you believe their ranges to be very loose, is that correct?

by the way this was not a party sit n go it was on ladbrokes.
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:34 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

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what part/parts of the conclusion were wrong valuenzuela???

i see that this is an easy call for you, as you believe their ranges to be very loose, is that correct?

by the way this was not a party sit n go it was on ladbrokes.

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Ill imagine each time we call we win 33% of the time, which is an understatement( i think more like 40%)..ok now look at the pot odds....yeah thats right.
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Old 10-16-2005, 08:57 PM
theordinaryboy theordinaryboy is offline
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

i'm not sure you should always use pot odds as gospel.

if say our stack was 400 less then,

lets say 40% of the time we do win the 3 way all-in

(0.4 x 500) + (0.6 x 200) = 200 + 120 = 320

but if we fold then we get

(0.25 x 500) + (0.75 x 300) = 125 + 225 = 350

so surely if we were the shortest stack it would be correct to fold, no?
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Old 10-16-2005, 09:20 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: Aks 3 handed 2 all-ins, hero\'s action???

Here is my math:
Blinds are 400/800
Stacks are:
5800
5000
4200

So if we fold we have -800.
If we call we win 33% of the time we have 0.
two things:
ure winning more than 33% of the time.
playing for second on a sng is not worth it unless u have a microscopic stack( its impossible to fold AKs profitably which such high blinds)
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