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Old 12-22-2005, 11:35 PM
jsnipes28 jsnipes28 is offline
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Default Definetely bet this river?

Villain hadn't done anything out of line in the past 100 hands here. Should i bet this river, and if so how much. A large bet more than 1/2 pot, or overbet is really only going to get called( by preflop raiser) by 88, JJ. I think that QQ, KK, AA can find a fold here to a large bet. So it's either bet like 35-40 as a value bet or check and hope to induce a bet from overpairs against my AJ. Thoughts on how i played the hand are welcome.
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Hero ($201.70)
BB ($42.10)
UTG ($249)
MP ($77.70)
CO ($137.75)
Button ($60.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
[color=#CC3333]UTG raises to $8</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, CO calls $8, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, Hero calls $7, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($26) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $14</font>, UTG calls $14, CO folds.

Turn: ($54) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $30</font>, UTG calls $30.

River: ($114) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:52 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: Definetely bet this river?

Bet $100, call a raise.

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A large bet more than 1/2 pot, or overbet is really only going to get called( by preflop raiser) by 88, JJ.

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This is wrong unless you are playing against an absolute ROCK, or if you are percieved as an absolute ROCK.

I see overpairs and Js calling all day, and nobody is folding an 8.

Furthermore, this is a pretty drawless board, so you can't really induce a bluff from a draw. He probably has a made hand, and he will probably call $100 with it.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: Definetely bet this river?

If you're only planning to bet $35 on the river then you'd be better off just folding preflop. You need to win big pots when you hit in order to justify putting in money preflop as a big dog, and you're not getting it done.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: Definetely bet this river?

I can see aa/kk/qq/aj getting away from it here for $100. Bet $65 and there's no way he's mucking those hands.

Get paid.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:15 AM
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Get paid.

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ya, so bet at least 80 if not 100
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: Definetely bet this river?

I like the idea of betting more than less. A lot of times people decide that they are check calling the river regardless of the size of the bet. So I think betting 80-100 is good here. Also bet more on every street.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: Definetely bet this river?

I don't see why AA-QQ would be afraid of a large bet. The board pair knocks out the possibility of losing to JT, and I don't see why he should be afraid of an 8. Make it 90.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:51 AM
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I don't see how you couldn't bet this river. I'm betting 80-100 and calling any raise. It reeks of QQ.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: Definetely bet this river?

Why did you lead this flop for so little?
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:55 AM
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Why did you lead this flop for so little?

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Maybe he's trying to milk the set for all he can. It's a huge mistake though because when he lets other hands catch up, he's just going to be getting action from hands that destroy him. Bet at least 20 there.
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