AK. Ugly flop.

[kongo_totte]

Villian (UTG) is 46/3 after 30 hands and has $38. Hero is UTG+2 and covers w/ A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Party NL50 Full ring

Pre-flop

UTG raises to $2, 1 folds, Hero calls, 7 fold.

Flop ($4:50) T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn ($4:50) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG makes it $7, Hero folds.

Is there another way to play this?

[ninjaunderwear]

It would not be uncommon to bet the flop. This is a highly coordinated flop, but surely not a pleasant one for someone with wired 99 or lower. The turn probably doesn't help anybody, so UTG may think his hand is good.

Checking behind on the flop gives you no information about your opponent. Throw out a bet and find out where you're at.

[snappo]

Bet the flop.

[kongo_totte]

What hands raises from UTG and check-calls the flop that I beat? Also, that is most likely to be a way ahead/way behind board for me vs. an EP-raiser.

[ninjaunderwear]

What range of hands did you put UTG on that caused you to check behind on the flop and fold to a check-raise on a blank turn?

Discuss checking behind on the turn to see where the river flows.

[gulebjorn]

First of all, raise PF. You have position on the raiser and you want to be last to act. Make it 6$-8$.

Second, you don't want them to check/call, you want them to fold on the flop. Bet 2/3 pot.

As to the way ahead/way behind statement: could be. But you don't know. Why are you giving a flush draw or perhaps a gutshot straight or second pair/underpair a free card here?

Again, bet the flop. If you are raised, it's easy to drop this. By checking behind and betting a blank turn, you look very weak.

JMO. Comments welcome.

Edit: even if you are raised on the flop, you might call. You still have TPTK and a gutshot draw to the nut straight.
That's 7 clean outs, assuming that a heart draw would flat call rather than raise. If your bet is just called and the turn is checked to you, bet strong again.

[ajmargarine]

Raise preflop to isolate the PFR with position.

Bet the flop to find out where you are. Broadway flops are dangerous when you only have one pair, even TPTK, and you have to find out ASAP where you are. If called, proceed with caution. If checkraised, fold.

[jkkkk]

I would bet the flop purely for fold equity from KK or JJ, if he calls its likely he has you beat and so you go into check-fold mode.

[amoeba]

when you fold out a worse hand, its not really fold equity.

I think flop check is fine.

I would have called the mini turn checkraise as I don't think anybody tries to check raise the turn when flop checkraise failed. then again there are crazy donks online.

I also think turn check behind is possible though not what I usually do here.

[amoeba]

villain is pfr with 46/3, I don't think you have to worry about heart draw.