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Old 07-12-2005, 07:15 PM
Bodhi Bodhi is offline
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Default Re: Fundamental Question in the Philosophy of Religion

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I am shocked that you think that it would be evidence for God.

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Old 07-12-2005, 09:37 PM
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Default The all-fitting god

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Here's the proof: Suppose that every Sunday at noon, the sun turned green and reformed itself into the shape of an ostrich for 43 minutes. Would you dare say that the fact that scientists couldn't explain it, still is no evidence for God?

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You are saying that, until we humans understand and explain away every "strange thing" about the world, we must accept that status as containing the evidence of the existence of a god ?

This is using god as the passe partout answer to our questions.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:45 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Default Re: Fundamental Question in the Philosophy of Religion

"If the sun really becomes shaped like an unmistakable ostrich, I would grant that there's probably a conscious will behind it. Explanations involving a conscious will would seem less far-fetched than explanations involving coincidence.

Do you think human consciousness or the other examples you mentioned are like an ostrich-shaped sun in that respect?"

No. Perhaps the problem here is that you don't realize that the things I'm talking about simply raise the probability of "intelligent design" (which was what I meant by God, nothing more) from what it would be otherwise. I never said it comes close to 50%. The ostrich would do that though, as you yourself admit.
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