WMDs and Bush - Lie or mistake?

[Jedster]

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I Also there is a strong feeling by many out there that Syria may have been the beneficiary of WMD largesse from Saddam.

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It has come to this? A "strong feeling"? Is this the same "many out there" that have "a strong feeling" that "intelligent design"/creationism should be taught instead of evolution?

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Dont be an ass. Let me put it to you a little more definitively. I think there is a very large chance that WMD were transported to Syria. Many people I know think this as well.

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If Iraq transported WMD to Syria before the war, then it stands to reason that we are just as vulnerable to that WMD today as we were then. Unless, of course, you think that Syria is a better caretaker of WMD than Iraq. The problem is that now we are bogged down in Iraq when all the WMD is in Syria. So according to that line of (flawed) thinking, clearly then we must be much worse off today than we were before the war because the WMD threat remains unabated AND our military is bogged down in Iraq. So if you really think that WMD is in Syria, please explain how the Iraq war has not been an unmitigated failure.

Please note: my view is that there were no significant WMD in Iraq before the war and that therefore nothing was ever moved to Syria. I believe that if there were any evidence that Syria held these weapons that Bush-Cheney would have made this case. Some may argue that Bush-Cheney would not make this case because they don't want to start another war in Syria because we are bogged down in Iraq. If this is true, then it proves the general point that Iraq was a screw-up, because it has hamstrung our nation from going after true threats. But to reiterate, I have never seen a single piece of evidence to suggest that Syria received WMD.

But there is plenty of evidence that Bush's war has been a total disaster.

Haven't read everything yet, so I don't know if this has been stated, but Bush said, and I quote: "We've found the weapons of mass destruction" to Polish television. I would say that amounts to a lie. Cheney also said there was "no doubt" that Iraq had wmd. Anyone that actually paid attention during the build up knows that there was some doubt. I know we'll never be able to convince those that still support Bush, but come on guys, at least admit that they were less than fully honest.

[richie]

Nice post. I'd like to see the neos answer that question also.

[Jedster]

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Nice post. I'd like to see the neos answer that question also.

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I think it's more likely that I'll win the WSOP next year.

[ptmusic]

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Haven't read everything yet, so I don't know if this has been stated, but Bush said, and I quote: "We've found the weapons of mass destruction" to Polish television. I would say that amounts to a lie. Cheney also said there was "no doubt" that Iraq had wmd. Anyone that actually paid attention during the build up knows that there was some doubt. I know we'll never be able to convince those that still support Bush, but come on guys, at least admit that they were less than fully honest.

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Not that I don't believe you (I do), but could you link to a reputable source with the quote "We've found the weapons of mass destruction"? That seems indefensible.

-ptmusic

[Jedster]

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Haven't read everything yet, so I don't know if this has been stated, but Bush said, and I quote: "We've found the weapons of mass destruction" to Polish television. I would say that amounts to a lie. Cheney also said there was "no doubt" that Iraq had wmd. Anyone that actually paid attention during the build up knows that there was some doubt. I know we'll never be able to convince those that still support Bush, but come on guys, at least admit that they were less than fully honest.

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Not that I don't believe you (I do), but could you link to a reputable source with the quote "We've found the weapons of mass destruction"? That seems indefensible.

-ptmusic

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/g8/interview5.html

May 29, 2003

Q But, still, those countries who didn't support the Iraqi Freedom operation use the same argument, weapons of mass destruction haven't been found. So what argument will you use now to justify this war?

THE PRESIDENT: We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two. And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.

LOL. I think he said REPUTABLE source [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Jedster]

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LOL. I think he said REPUTABLE source [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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My bad! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Take it from a military intel soldier who just went through basic training and AIT before being discharged on a chapter 2 (medical discharge under honorable conditions) that our next front will be korea.

if an insider in the army isnt a reputable source, who is.