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neither of those statements were intended as personal attacks. if somebody told me i had a fundamental lack of understanding of something and proceeded to illustrate their point, i could agree with them and i not be offended. i can see how you interpreted my statement in that way. slashdot and 2+2 are truly apples and oranges, though, and i think i have elucidated that point fairly well. the veteran comment was a generalization, and i still believe it to be accurate.
i am completely supportive of threaded stuff in 'news' contexts like slashdot, by the way. i wouldn't want to see slashdot turned into a standard forum, and i think it's a bad way to have directed conversation about specific subjects in short bursts. i think the 2+2 MAGAZINE would be better off if it were done exactly like slashdot - summary of article, you click it to read more, and threaded discussion would be on the same page. it's kludgy and non-intuitive to read something, then go to a separate shoehorned place to discuss it. the vast majority of DEDICATED FORUMS that i am aware of employ flat mode by default, and i believe the reason why is that it is superior in terms of usability. i never disagreed that some people enjoy threaded mode. my suggestion is that catering to that minority when evaluating alternative forum software would be a bad thing. it's not a standard feature, and a forum of this size should not be limited to less proven/scaleable solutions. |
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[ QUOTE ] You are inferring more than what's in bobby's post IMO [/ QUOTE ] it wasn't an inferrence. he suggested in plain english that i was resorting to semantics, which was a hasty and incorrect judgement. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] if you're 'giving up' already i can't imagine that you've thought through your position thoroughly enough to care, and instantly interpreting my response as a bias-selected group for the sake of semantic argument is just silly. [/ QUOTE ] all of this is conjecture. Your original reply, while it elaborated somewhat, spent more time harping on the definition of "forum" - and was worded aggressively...more to be right than to be helpful. FWIW I read in flat mode but i'm totally indifferent - I think we should go with the best forum software even if I have to go back to reading in threaded mode. Surf |
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FWIW I read in flat mode but i'm totally indifferent - I think we should go with the best forum software even if I have to go back to reading in threaded mode. [/ QUOTE ] if threaded mode is enforced i am certain that 2+2 would see an exodus of users. a forum of OOT's activity level, for example, would rapidly become unusable. mandating support for it is functionally limiting in terms of software solutions. i think enabling it by default is a bad thing, and forcing it would be downright disastrous. |
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There's no chance that we would go exclusively to threaded mode. There is some chance we would go only to flat, but I'm really hoping we can find a way to keep both options.
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if threaded mode is enforced i am certain that 2+2 would see an exodus of users. a forum of OOT's activity level, for example, would rapidly become unusable. mandating support for it is functionally limiting in terms of software solutions. i think enabling it by default is a bad thing, and forcing it would be downright disastrous. [/ QUOTE ] Of course. I was exagerrating to illustrate a point - that the overall quality of the software should be of greatest concern. Surf |
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I'm really hoping we can find a way to keep both options [/ QUOTE ] i honestly hope it's feasible too. if any feature a number of people want can be afforded, it should be. the problem is that the enterprise-oriented forum software like vbulletin, ipb, fusetalk, etc doesn't seem to support it. as a user i'm slightly partial to ipb, which could be seen as a 'grown-up' phpbb. vbulletin is the most widely-used/liked enterprise forum software out there. if it were my forum to run, my first choice would be vbulletin, and i would look down the tree if i ran into a showstopper. MASSIVE use and commercial support (including phone) is a big deal. look at http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...threadid=47430 - i would consider somethingawful's forums to be a standard of 'massive'. 31 million posts. 5,500 users LOGGED IN right now. |
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With any luck I've fixed the "back" button problem.
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You rock chuck. A quick check of two cases where it really annoyed me looks fixed.
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It seems to be but now i keep getting this when trying to reply to your new post:
The form you have submitted is no longer valid. Please use your back button to return to the previous page. |
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Test of replying.
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