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11-20-2005, 12:34 AM
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Re: Why is Oil a rare commodity in 2005...
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I believe in Social Credit actually. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. I didn't know that "socialism," in the pure sense, necessitates state control of the means of production. My thinking was misled by the more common usage, which refers to increased taxation and use of those funds for social programs (as in some European countries). I suppose I was wrong to call you a socialist. However, I still think "socialist" is a big step down from "communist." 
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11-20-2005, 12:45 AM
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Re: Why is Oil a rare commodity in 2005...
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[ QUOTE ] I believe in Social Credit actually. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. I didn't know that "socialism," in the pure sense, necessitates state control of the means of production. My thinking was misled by the more common usage, which refers to increased taxation and use of those funds for social programs (as in some European countries). I suppose I was wrong to call you a socialist. However, I still think "socialist" is a big step down from "communist." [/ QUOTE ] It is, and I misused the word.
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#73
11-20-2005, 01:08 AM
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Re: Why is Oil a rare commodity in 2005...
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[ QUOTE ] However, I still think "socialist" is a big step down from "communist." [/ QUOTE ] It is, and I misused the word. [/ QUOTE ] So we're all happy. For what it's worth, I disagree with Peter 100% as well.
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#75
11-20-2005, 05:36 AM
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Re: Why is Oil a rare commodity in 2005...
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Apparently not, and rightfully so. [/ QUOTE ] It appears this turned out to be wrong. [ QUOTE ] What if you invented a super net that was able to catch every fish in the ocean in a short time. Do you have a right to catch every single fish and sell it at prices you deem fit, leaving others with nothing? [/ QUOTE ] Bad analogy. The oil industry seems fairly diverse. No one company or country controls "all" the oil and no one can take "all" the oil. But this doesn't really go to the contradiction I was thinking of, which was that you aren't advocating taking control of the oil companies, yet want vague "regulations" (sounds like control to me) on these companies to keep them from doing something they aren't even doing now. Plus the fact that you think regulating the oil industry would result in a more fair distribution of oil. Think about it. It sounds like you want to limit their production so they don't "take" it all too quickly, which would create a shortage and thus raise the prices, effectively making life tougher on the poor (something I thought you were arguing previously was bad). Also, if regulation means higher taxes and making the oil industry less productive, you're again creating a shortage/raising the price affecting the poor you pretend to care about. So tell me, does your previous statement seem a little contradictive and stupid now?
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