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09-05-2005, 08:48 AM
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Re: Corporate disobedience plan to counter the rake increase.
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I could see if we all signed a petition and sent it to them, explaining that we like what they have to offer us and would like to be considered when they do things like this etc. As an affiliate, I/We could get this in the hand of the right people. People who would at least understand our concern. [/ QUOTE ] I agree in a sense, we are a mass of players. Communication with party is key. We have no representation. We do deserve it. We do have power; we are the only ones who can prevent ourselves from expressing it. Party does in a sense OWE us something. We are PAYING for a service. They OWE us a fair service for a rate that is acceptable for us. If we could organize the poker community as a whole, we could easily play poker for 30 dolalrs a month, instead of 20,000 dollars a month. (The poker community includes fish, they are paying too, they are a part of us. They want to play poker with us, they dont care about party poker, and they dont care to pay party poker any money.) It is a matter of our effor and organization. 
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#72
09-05-2005, 08:50 AM
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Bargaining tool? Are you serious? Party knows damn well there is nothing we can do about this. Ultimately, what can we do if they don't rollback the increase? [/ QUOTE ] Believe you cant, and you wont. We will all benefit from an intelligent and aware poker population.
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#73
09-05-2005, 08:51 AM
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[ QUOTE ] I'll expatiate on this matter in the coming days but for now I will say that many of you are being so weak. 1 day of 2p2 go slowing can cost party $1 million. That is a lot even for party. That is $1 million immediately, but the long term effects will be larger as it will annoy the fish and some of them will leave, email party etc. Lets say we organise this 1 day go slow and it costs them $ 1,000,000. We can then use the (genuine) threat of further action as a bargaining tool. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are vastly underestimating the number of poker players that this affects. [/ QUOTE ]
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#74
09-05-2005, 09:48 AM
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Re: Corporate disobedience plan to counter the rake increase.
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[ QUOTE ] Bargaining tool? Are you serious? Party knows damn well there is nothing we can do about this. Ultimately, what can we do if they don't rollback the increase? [/ QUOTE ] Believe you cant, and you wont. We will all benefit from an intelligent and aware poker population. [/ QUOTE ] Look, if raising awareness is the goal, that's fine. We can accomplish that. If you want to make Party more responsive when it comes to customer service, I believe that too is possible. But there is zero chance of getting Party to roll-back a rake increase which merely puts it in line with other sites.
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#75
09-05-2005, 10:48 AM
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Re: Corporate disobedience plan to counter the rake increase.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bargaining tool? Are you serious? Party knows damn well there is nothing we can do about this. Ultimately, what can we do if they don't rollback the increase? [/ QUOTE ] Believe you cant, and you wont. We will all benefit from an intelligent and aware poker population. [/ QUOTE ] Look, if raising awareness is the goal, that's fine. We can accomplish that. If you want to make Party more responsive when it comes to customer service, I believe that too is possible. But there is zero chance of getting Party to roll-back a rake increase which merely puts it in line with other sites. [/ QUOTE ] You are thinking too small about this. The overall rake is too high. This one rake increase is just starting to push it over the edge. The online poker market will eventually move toward a much lower rake. Like was offered by the rake free sites etc. It just a matter of how long it takes.
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#76
09-05-2005, 10:53 AM
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Re: Corporate disobedience plan to counter the rake increase.
Why are some many people so against trying to lower the rake? If you aren't an affilate, or dont work for the poker site, then it can only help you.
We can make it happen. Why do you wanna hate? If you want to be narrow minded and simply won't believe it can happen, then go back to work at your regular job and leave us to our own devices. It seems to me these people are the ones that believe nothing can be done about anything. Large changes and movements occur all the time, these people are just never a part of them.
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#78
09-05-2005, 11:13 AM
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Re: Corporate disobedience plan to counter the rake increase.
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Party does in a sense OWE us something. We are PAYING for a service. They OWE us a fair service for a rate that is acceptable for us. If we could organize the poker community as a whole, we could easily play poker for 30 dolalrs a month, instead of 20,000 dollars a month. (The poker community includes fish, they are paying too, they are a part of us. They want to play poker with us, they dont care about party poker, and they dont care to pay party poker any money.) [/ QUOTE ] Party does not owe you fair service at a rate you find acceptable. That's ridiculous, and that's the reason all of you have these ridiculous ideas. You guys are making way too much money. Party deserves a bigger share of it, and they're getting it. Good for them. BTW, before anyone does this, it might behoove them to research the applicable laws on things like "civil conspiracy" and "tortious interference with prospective contractual relations." Also consider that Party has your address on file and iron clad records of this plan and your actions on their site.
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#79
09-05-2005, 11:28 AM
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Re: Corporate disobedience plan to counter the rake increase.
"Party deserves a bigger share of it, and they're getting it. Good for them."
Too bad you had to go off the deep end, because the first part of your paragraph was basically right. This, however, is just stupid. -Michael
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#80
09-05-2005, 12:00 PM
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Re: Corporate disobedience plan to counter the rake increase.
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BTW, before anyone does this, it might behoove them to research the applicable laws on things like "civil conspiracy" and "tortious interference with prospective contractual relations." Also consider that Party has your address on file and iron clad records of this plan and your actions on their site. [/ QUOTE ] Have you ever complained about someone who takes to long to make a decision in a tournament? How is this any different? Do you think party is going to take people to court or something? Party would be most likely to freeze your account and say buzz off.
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