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Old 06-12-2005, 02:10 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: OE straight draw ...

great thread

I'm surprised that more people haven't discussed the pf complete. Calling preflop really looks like its leaking chips to me.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: OE straight draw ...


I think calling preflop is fine, although sometimes I don't call in this exact spot because BB pushes a lot more frequently when so shortstacked.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:42 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: OE straight draw ...

My main concern is that the most common flop that you are going to get that you can like is something like Kawhe,10,5 which can get tricky to play out of position without good reads. Also, with the BB so short I like betting out here, but if he had more chips I would often check this flop. In the $50s I will often get loose players limping in w A8 and call a flop bet even if he misses and only has A high.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: OE straight draw ...

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Hmm, would Giga's block model make this a super easy call?

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Doubt it..,winning this pot doesn't give you enough of an extra chunk vx. the rest of the field...of course, losing doesn't hurt your current chunk too much either. Leaving short around isn't a very bad idea b/c it makes it easier to attack other stacks (or maybe shorty doubles up from a 1900 stack and now you do have someone almost outchunked).

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Old 06-12-2005, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: OE straight draw ...

Dunno, you win and you have 2760 or so, 2 stacks at about 1900 and one at about 1100. You can attack small stacks blind without fear of being crippled and if small stack is a little shorter you certainly have a lot of power over the bigger stacks on the bubble.

Perhaps it doesn't get you all the way there, but it could get you most of the way there.

Just talkin' though, I'm not a -EV disciple yet.
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