I'm a card mechanic.

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So much rationalizing just to excuse one's own poor sportsmanship.

[RunDownHouse]

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So much rationalizing just to excuse one's own poor sportsmanship.

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So much rationalizing just to excuse cheating, in the case of coming up with ill-fitting and misleading analogies. Terming it rationalization implies that there's some sort of specious reasoning or shady assumption being made to justify an unethical act (as with the boxer analogy). The actual case is pretty black and white: nobody pities the fat man for losing a sprint to an Olympian, and nobody strips the medal from the Olympian for beating someone clearly competing over their head.

Of course, you can feel free to refute any of this instead of pumping out a hasty one-liner.

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edit: hey, The_Tracker... as a fledgling mechanic, do you think you could learn to double duke someone in a multiway game? i.e. two runts and then center deal for the rest of the people? That seems insanely hard but I can't even false shuffle well. I'm ok with straight bottom dealing but no expert.

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This can be done by stock shuffling. If you wanted a two card stock, you place the two desired cards on top, undercut about halfway, in-jog the top card, run two less than twice the number of players, out-jog and shuffle off. Then undercut to the out-jog, forming a break at the in-jog, run one less than number of players, in-jog and shuffle off. Undercut again to in-jog and throw on top. The desired cards will now come to the dealer in the first two rounds. This obviously has to be done with a hand shuffle which is maybe not common for most home games.
This can also be done with 3, 4, or higher stocks.

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What the hell does all of this mean?

[walterberk]

it means he's really cool and can do card tricks so watch out for this [censored] next time you play your home game.

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it means he's really cool and can do card tricks so watch out for this [censored] next time you play your home game.

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What it really means "newbie" is that most people have probably a .05% chance of running into this kind of cheating in their home game.
The fact of the matter is it takes as much if not more study and practice to skillfully cheat at cards than it does to play straight.
The kind of cheating you are likely to run into is some dope trying to mark a card, or hold an ace in his lap or something. Use a brand new deck, and have another brand new deck on hand. Should eliminate most problems.

Let this thread die already. Its really quite lame.

[smoore]

Yeah, The_Tracker is right. Cheating in home games isn't going to be mechanics. Hell, I cheat in home games but I'm not good enough to manipulate the cards. Fortunately, I don't have to, the fools mark them for me. All I have to do is note which card is marked which way and then act accordingly.

So moral high-grounders, am I a f**ktard? Am I bilking my friends out of money? I have not manipulated the cards, I have not marked them myself. I have simply failed to call for a new deck. I'm a dick, huh?

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So much rationalizing just to excuse one's own poor sportsmanship.

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So much rationalizing just to excuse cheating, in the case of coming up with ill-fitting and misleading analogies. Terming it rationalization implies that there's some sort of specious reasoning or shady assumption being made to justify an unethical act (as with the boxer analogy). The actual case is pretty black and white: nobody pities the fat man for losing a sprint to an Olympian, and nobody strips the medal from the Olympian for beating someone clearly competing over their head.

Of course, you can feel free to refute any of this instead of pumping out a hasty one-liner.

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I don't excuse the cheating.

I just put your being a bad sport in the same bucket, that's all. I think you're being a hypocrit saying "That's cheating" while at the same time supporting an interpretation of sportsmanship that happens to always give you the edge.

Before you shout "cheater," check your own house.

[walterberk]

If you cheat or condone cheating at anything then you are a less than honorable person.

[ericslagle]

Totally serious here - I cheated once playing strip poker. We had been drinking for hours and I don't know if she noticed or not, but I had aces up or better every hand the whole time. Does anyone think that it's unethical to cheat at strip poker?

[wingsfan]

Don't ethics go out the windows once you're playing strip poker?