Stealing Food From Employers

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paying 6 dollars an hour is a worse crime than stealing.

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I don't steal but neither do I condone slavery.

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If you can't pay a living wage to staff, then you should go broke

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You are an idiot.

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I know a guy who works at a grocery chain's local warehouse where he picks the orders for the trucks that go to the stores. He wears an apron over his clothes and inside the warehouse it is air-conditioned and refridgerated. So, they don't notice that he is wearing a rope around his neck. Every day he hooks like half a dozen steaks onto the rope underneath his clothes and walks by security that only checks bags. He then tries to sell them on the street outside his apartment. What a goddamn skid.

When I put myself through school I worked as a waiter during the summer at a fancy joint. There were only a few incidents. But one time I remember...I was out all day, didn't eat, customer pissed me off, tray with his beef wellington was on my shoulder bringing it between the kitchen and the dining room. Craned my neck over while walking. CHOMP!

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Not nice. A lot of food servers are arseholes, I think.

I remember once I went to a bar with some friends. Nobody had had anything to drink yet, and everyone was very mellow and friendly. I ordered a black russian to drink, and the waitress comes back and passes out the drinks all around and starts to pass me a drink, but it wasn't a black russian. I ordered a black russian, I said. No you didn't, she said, you ordered this. I told her I had never even heard of that kind of drink before, which was true enough. I had no idea what that drink was and had never heard of it, so there was no possible way I could have ordered it by mistake. Anyway, nothing was amped up, everything was relaxed and pleasant. She then threw the drink right in my face.

Yeah, people who work in bars often have piss poor attitudes and aren't afraid to show it.

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I know a guy who works at a grocery chain's local warehouse where he picks the orders for the trucks that go to the stores. He wears an apron over his clothes and inside the warehouse it is air-conditioned and refridgerated. So, they don't notice that he is wearing a rope around his neck. Every day he hooks like half a dozen steaks onto the rope underneath his clothes and walks by security that only checks bags. He then tries to sell them on the street outside his apartment. What a goddamn skid.

When I put myself through school I worked as a waiter during the summer at a fancy joint. There were only a few incidents. But one time I remember...I was out all day, didn't eat, customer pissed me off, tray with his beef wellington was on my shoulder bringing it between the kitchen and the dining room. Craned my neck over while walking. CHOMP!

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Not nice. A lot of food servers are arseholes, I think.

I remember once I went to a bar with some friends. Nobody had had anything to drink yet, and everyone was very mellow and friendly. I ordered a black russian to drink, and the waitress comes back and passes out the drinks all around and starts to pass me a drink, but it wasn't a black russian. I ordered a black russian, I said. No you didn't, she said, you ordered this. I told her I had never even heard of that kind of drink before, which was true enough. I had no idea what that drink was and had never heard of it, so there was no possible way I could have ordered it by mistake. Anyway, nothing was amped up, everything was relaxed and pleasant. She then threw the drink right in my face.

Yeah, people who work in bars often have piss poor attitudes and aren't afraid to show it.

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woah, what did you do after she threw it in your face?

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Well done, I don't steal but neither do I condone slavery.

Mack

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Voluntarily working for 6$/hr because you are too stupid/lazy/apathetic to get another job is not slavery. You think that someone should get 20$/hr to mess an order at subway, thats ridiculous.

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If you don't like your job, get another one. If you can't, it's because you're not qualified for one. If you're not qualified for one, then you don't deserve one. And if you're a thief, you deserve to a job making license plates.

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The smartest thing to do is to admit realities and deal with them, kind of like teen pregnancy and sex education. People are gonna do certain things, so you operate on that basis instead of wishful thinking, and you'll usually have a better outcome.

It used to be traditional everywhere that you could get a decent meal for every shift you worked at a restaurant. The thing is, you're around all that food all the time, and very few people won't start eating some of it anyway if they're constantly around food and hungry. So by giving your employee a free meal, you're really not spending much money at all, and you keep his goodwill and have a much better chance of keeping him honest. A huge reason people steal is not because they need the money or whatever it is they're stealing; it's because they feel ripped off or underappreciated themselves, and so they turn it around and give right back what they feel is given.

Restaurant work is often hard, high-pressure, grungy, sweaty, incredibly stinky work, and the pay is atrocious, and there's very little of an "up" to move up to, if any. Frankly, it's kind of miserable all around. You've got people completely primed to steal here, badwill waiting to happen, and food everywhere. Why be a prick and fight it? Give them a free meal and they won't feel the depressing irony of feeling like they're starving in a restaurant full of food that they probably couldn't afford to eat at.

It may not seem like it if you're a fanatic or want the world to be something it's not, or all about you and pinching pennies more than it is, but it's a win-win for everyone. Doing just a bit extra for the employees can prevent a ton of them screwing you over hard. Restaurants feed their employees all the time. It's foolish not to.

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Well done, I don't steal but neither do I condone slavery.

Mack

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Voluntarily working for 6$/hr because you are too stupid/lazy/apathetic to get another job is not slavery. You think that someone should get 20$/hr to mess an order at subway, thats ridiculous.

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If you don't like your job, get another one. If you can't, it's because you're not qualified for one. If you're not qualified for one, then you don't deserve one. And if you're a thief, you deserve to a job making license plates.

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Fair enough, by the same logic if you don't pay fair wages you deserve idiots and thieves from the bottom of the food chain, and you deserve to have your business go broke. Cuts both ways.

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This is a plain fact and applies to every business. You get what you pay for -- and actually in some cases you're lucky to get even that.

Seriously, though, lots of businesses are staffed almost entirely by people who can't get a job anywhere else, because anyone with any chance or any competence at all would get the hell out of them as soon as they possibly could. The turnover is enormous and the atmosphere awful in lots of workplaces, and that's how they play it. They put nothing into the employee and have no desire to, and they get exactly nothing back, and maybe even some stealing and sabotage in return. It's a very even exchange.

Not every business is like that, but a lot of owners really set themselves up for terrible employee behavior. It's a rare small business owner I've seen that doesn't throw tantrums over nothing that bewilder, anger, or frighten his employees. The truth is, most bosses suck at least as badly as their employees, and the tone of a place always comes from the top down, not the other way around.

It can be one of those vicious circles -- nutty, nasty boss eventually makes even his most sane employees nutty and nasty too, which then finally chases the last sane people out of the business and the thing either runs despite the incompetence of everyone there or collapses. Usually, it collapses. God forbid the original idea was good enough that there's nothing the boss can do to destroy his own enterprise, because then he thinks he's a genius and becomes even more overbearing and self-indulgent.

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If they're paying employees too much, yes they go broke.

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Most of the businesses I've seen that have gone broke, failed becasue the owners took out too much money and left themselves under-capitalised. I guess if people will work for $6 then thats what they will get, personally I wouldn't expect them to be the cream of the crop or particularly honest though.

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Oops, you forgot the first rule of talking about business. You can't admit that there is ever an amount that the owner takes out that is too much for the business to bear. We can talk about an employee sense of entitlement, but an employer's sense of entitlement is off limits.

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And its that kind of thing that keeps me out of big, corporate sports bars and in the neighborhood pubs.

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There's nothing wrong with tracking it. But anyone who's run a bar knows repeat business is what keeps you in business. If you don't let your barstaff take care of people, you won't have any.

Speaking of that, my bar screwed me. The 2-for-1 happy hour on draft beer and wells has been changed. Now only Miller Lite is included, not Stell Artois. Bastards! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Miller lite? Yuck. That stuff would be hard to drink even for free.

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I know a guy who works at a grocery chain's local warehouse where he picks the orders for the trucks that go to the stores. He wears an apron over his clothes and inside the warehouse it is air-conditioned and refridgerated. So, they don't notice that he is wearing a rope around his neck. Every day he hooks like half a dozen steaks onto the rope underneath his clothes and walks by security that only checks bags. He then tries to sell them on the street outside his apartment. What a goddamn skid.

When I put myself through school I worked as a waiter during the summer at a fancy joint. There were only a few incidents. But one time I remember...I was out all day, didn't eat, customer pissed me off, tray with his beef wellington was on my shoulder bringing it between the kitchen and the dining room. Craned my neck over while walking. CHOMP!

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Not nice. A lot of food servers are arseholes, I think.

I remember once I went to a bar with some friends. Nobody had had anything to drink yet, and everyone was very mellow and friendly. I ordered a black russian to drink, and the waitress comes back and passes out the drinks all around and starts to pass me a drink, but it wasn't a black russian. I ordered a black russian, I said. No you didn't, she said, you ordered this. I told her I had never even heard of that kind of drink before, which was true enough. I had no idea what that drink was and had never heard of it, so there was no possible way I could have ordered it by mistake. Anyway, nothing was amped up, everything was relaxed and pleasant. She then threw the drink right in my face.

Yeah, people who work in bars often have piss poor attitudes and aren't afraid to show it.

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woah, what did you do after she threw it in your face?

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All the other nearby bars were suffocatingly crammed and my friends were amazed but still wanted to stay, so I stayed. It was kind of either that or go home, or spend at least an hour finding another place with room in it. I walked up to the bartender and calmly asked to speak to the manager, but they gave me the run-around.

I didn't get an apology from the waitress, but at least I got a nasty smirk out of her and an "Oops!"

It's amazing how easy it is to bump into psychos in L.A. They must grow them hydroponically or something.

Same thing with my friends at Baskin Robbins...funny.

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Remember that long, heated debate 2+2 had about whether online casinos/cardrooms cheat? There were many threads.

Here we have a thread where people are being tempted by a freaking sub sandwich and robbing a store blind.

Think a wide-open 40/80 looks tastier than a sub?

I do.