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Re: *Official* Boat or Better Thread
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Hmm, I think I extracted the most out of my quads here. Too bad I LOST though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls. Turn: (11 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls. River: (23 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls. Final Pot: 35 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has 3c 3s (four of a kind, threes). UTG+2 has 9d 8d (flush, nine high). MP3 has 4d Ad (straight flush, five high). Outcome: MP3 wins 35 BB. </font> [/ QUOTE ] very well-played. However, this is more of a bad beat post. Please keep this thread to content only. |
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Re: Why you don\'t need to slowplay quads at 1/2
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didnt you lose an avatar bet or something? why are you still normal looking. i want to see blood damn it. [/ QUOTE ] b-set is slow getting ideas. |
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Re: Why you don\'t need to slowplay quads at 1/2
Now that this forum contains both bottomset and beset, we may have to be more careful w/ our nick names [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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Re: *Official* Boat or Better Thread
OK no bad beat post this time (you're right)
This flop situation is a real dilema for me, I want a big multiway pot with all the second-best hands possible and dont wan't to knock people out on this flop, then I reflect after the fact; these guys are just as likely to call 2 bets with their inside straight draw or jack/weak kicker (not to mention the case 9) as they are one bet, and I miss alot of these raises. Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO folds. Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, SB folds. River: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls. Final Pot: 10 BB |
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Re: *Official* Boat or Better Thread
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OK no bad beat post this time (you're right) This flop situation is a real dilema for me, I want a big multiway pot with all the second-best hands possible and dont wan't to knock people out on this flop, then I reflect after the fact; these guys are just as likely to call 2 bets with their inside straight draw or jack/weak kicker (not to mention the case 9) as they are one bet, and I miss alot of these raises. Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO folds. Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, SB folds. River: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls. Final Pot: 10 BB [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, the problem with these situations is that you want it to be multiway, but you want to let people go to war. I think that I would prefer raising this flop. The reason for this is that we can assume SB will bet the turn again, at which point we would like to raise. However, raising here is even more likely to fold out a J or gutshot and reeks of a slowplay. I play this one straightforward because people are more likely to call 2 SB than 2BB. |
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Re: *Official* Boat or Better Thread
I think this is how you're supposed to dig yourself out of a hole...
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 (poster) 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP3 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls. Flop: (18.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP3 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls. Turn: (16.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls. River: (22.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls. Final Pot: 34.25 BB <font color="#009B00">Main Pot: 34.25 BB, between UTG+2, MP1 and Hero.</font> > <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by Hero (34.25 BB).</font> Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> UTG+2 has 9d 8s (three of a kind, eights). MP1 has 9c Tc (flush, queen high). Hero has Qs Qh (full house, queens full of eights). Outcome: Hero wins 34.25 BB. </font> |
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Re: *Official* Boat or Better Thread
Did you think you were ahead on the flop? I probably would have just called the 3 bet with my 2 outer.
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Another CardPlayer Article
I think this is a good thread for this article. I think it is an interesting 'inside' look at playing a monster hand.
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Re: *Official* Boat or Better Thread
WISE FWOM YOUR GWAVE
Anyone playing this differently against an unknown poster? PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50. <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks. Flop: (2.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (3.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls. Final Pot: 9.25 BB |
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Re: *Official* Boat or Better Thread
I had one similar the other day with QQ against 3 fish. Ended up netting 36BB by the time it was over.
Board ended up: 5d, Ts, 5s, Qd, 6h I agree with the article, especially at low limits you want to keep the fish in as long as possible when you've got the nuts but you definitely need to bet. A check on the flop and lead out bet on the turn tends to slow things down way too much. Unless an Ace is on the board people don't seem to give credit for boats and will keep on in a hand past the point of pain. Fish one had 6s, 6d Hero won with Qh, Qs Fish two had Jh, Jd The 4th person dropped out in all the action on the turn. Knowing his play it looked like he was on a flush draw. Helped make up for a lousy day. |
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