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Old 03-17-2004, 12:44 AM
Dingo Puppet Dingo Puppet is offline
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Default Re: Dutch Boyd needs money for his WSOP entry.

Wow. You people are even more gullible than I thought!

ROTFLMOL

E-mail me if you want to know what's so funny.

Love,
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Old 03-17-2004, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: Dutch Boyd needs money for his WSOP entry.

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He has said he isn't a paid consultant, which means nothing:


ohhh, but i disagree.

it means that he is mildly smart, because if he admits it, every poker world post of his gets deleted, and he has to sign future posts by clearly identifying himself as a consultant.

this is a slimy, smarmy person. i am no longer doubtful it is BOYd.

like flys to SHlT, this person will always find a way to rob from you.


i would not put a DIME into any site silybum is promoting, unless he is honest about his affiliation.
(at which point i still would not put a dime there, but at least others would know the risks)



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Clarification and re-post for Granny:

hat doesn't mean you aren't employed by them. Typically, consultants are not employees of an organization, they get paid for work they do as they do it and can work for several organizations at once. Employees collect a paycheck and are paid via salary or hourly wages.

So, since you aren't a consultant, you are obviously an employee.
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Old 03-17-2004, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Dutch Boyd needs money for his WSOP entry.

Sillybum?? Where are you???
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Old 03-17-2004, 01:42 AM
anusbung anusbung is offline
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Default Silybum is a Liar (STAY AWAY FROM POKERWORLD!!!!!!)

Silybum is a liar.

Everyone should know PokerWorld uses paid props. Liveactionpoker.com sent out tons of spam recruiting them.

The MSN Screen Names for the prop managers are:

drdeal88@hotmail.com (OVERLORD) (formerly ANACONDA ?)
propmgr@thebattlefords.com (propmgr)
propmgr2@thebattlefords.com (propmgr2)
shiftmgr@thebattlefords.com (shiftmgr)
shiftmgr2@thebattlefords.com (shiftmgr2)
ajagodik@hotmail.com (alexander)

If I understand correctly -- Alexander is an employee of PokerWorld that is in charge of the prop program for them. The props are encouraged to speak with the other prop managers before talking to him.

I also have a complete list of all the current props at PokerWorld that were hired by this group (but I think I hold out on publishing this now). They purportedly give this out to the props so that they can make sure not to have more than 5 props in a game. In actuality this list is also used by the props themselves so they can collude with each other during the games.

I also posted the full prop contract that I received when I became a paid prop at PokerWorld. You can read the full contract at http://www.talkaboutgambling.com/gro...es/636554.html

Here's a copy of the recruiting letter I received:

----------begin letter---------

LiveActionPoker.com has been contracted to acquire 70 REAL Online Poker Props and we would like to know if you are interested. This means that you will be paid for playing online poker!

Unlike other programs that only pay per raked hand, this program will pay you for every hand that is DEALT to you! That means you could be the tightest "rock" and still get paid for it.

Here is the actual payment plan:

Stakes / Pay per hand Avg pay/based on 60-70 hands/hr.

1/2 .07 $5
2/4 .12 $7-9
3/6 .15 $9-12
5/10+ .18 $10-14
NL/PL .10 $6-7

As a Prop Player you will be required to play a minimum of just 600 hands per week (maximum of 6,000).

All Prop Players will receive a 50% initial deposit bonus up to $250 AND an ongoing 25% RELOAD BONUS.

All players are eligible as long as they can play a minimum of 600 hands per week, but the more you play, the more you will make. The pay period is Wednesday-Tuesday.Payday will be no later than the following Friday,deposited directly into your account.

What is the site?

The site that you will be playing at is PokerWorld.com. Poker World is owned by the third largest online sports book on the Internet and promises to become one of the largest poker rooms as well.

How do you get started?

Poker World will be opening their doors to the public sometime TODAY, however, you can get enrolled as a paid Prop Player right now! To get started please follow these steps carefully:

1. Download Poker World's free software at http://www.pokerworld.com/download/PokerWorld.exe
2. IMPORTANT: When signing up for your new account, be sure and use the referal code: pokerprops


Once you have completed those steps, email the following information to pwprops@liveactionpoker.com

1. Your MSN instant Messenger Name (You must have MSN Instant Messenger)
2. Your new Poker World username


Once these steps are completed, you will receive a welcome email from the Prop Manager giving you final instructions.

This is the absolute best Prop Program on the Internet. If you have ever dreamed of getting paid to play, then this is your opportunity!



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Old 03-17-2004, 01:47 AM
anusbung anusbung is offline
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Default Silybum is a Liar (STAY AWAY FROM POKERWORLD!!!!!!)

Silybum-

PokerWorld uses props. You are a liar.

Heres the advertisement that liveactionpoker.com used to recruit them: (please note: I do not encourage anyone to play at PokerWorld. They are filled with nothing but props, cheats, liars, and colluders.)

-------begin-------

LiveActionPoker.com has been contracted to acquire 70 REAL Online Poker Props and we would like to know if you are interested. This means that you will be paid for playing online poker!

Unlike other programs that only pay per raked hand, this program will pay you for every hand that is DEALT to you! That means you could be the tightest "rock" and still get paid for it.

Here is the actual payment plan:

Stakes / Pay per hand Avg pay/based on 60-70 hands/hr.

1/2 .07 $5
2/4 .12 $7-9
3/6 .15 $9-12
5/10+ .18 $10-14
NL/PL .10 $6-7

As a Prop Player you will be required to play a minimum of just 600 hands per week (maximum of 6,000).

All Prop Players will receive a 50% initial deposit bonus up to $250 AND an ongoing 25% RELOAD BONUS.

All players are eligible as long as they can play a minimum of 600 hands per week, but the more you play, the more you will make. The pay period is Wednesday-Tuesday.Payday will be no later than the following Friday,deposited directly into your account.

What is the site?

The site that you will be playing at is PokerWorld.com. Poker World is owned by the third largest online sports book on the Internet and promises to become one of the largest poker rooms as well.

How do you get started?

Poker World will be opening their doors to the public sometime TODAY, however, you can get enrolled as a paid Prop Player right now! To get started please follow these steps carefully:

1. Download Poker World's free software at http://www.pokerworld.com/download/PokerWorld.exe
2. IMPORTANT: When signing up for your new account, be sure and use the referal code: pokerprops


Once you have completed those steps, email the following information to pwprops@liveactionpoker.com

1. Your MSN instant Messenger Name (You must have MSN Instant Messenger)
2. Your new Poker World username


Once these steps are completed, you will receive a welcome email from the Prop Manager giving you final instructions.

This is the absolute best Prop Program on the Internet. If you have ever dreamed of getting paid to play, then this is your opportunity!


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Old 03-17-2004, 01:52 AM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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Default Re: Dutch Boyd needs money for his WSOP entry.

So, since you aren't a consultant, you are obviously an employee

either or, and he has to identify himself on his twoplustwo posts. if he receives anything in way of compensation, even including something as minimal as a personal rake rebate, then he has an arrangement with the site.

ANY arrangement makes it mandatory to spell this out when posting anything at all related to pokerworld, or any sham 3rd party company set up to hide this affiliation.


i've probably missed it, but has anyone emailed poker world directly with a link to these posts? if them, or the sports-book were reputable, they would answer. maybe they are the ones that could clarify better.

this guy may neither be dutch, OR affiliated with poker world. what a waste of time all of this would turn out to be.

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Old 03-17-2004, 01:56 AM
anusbung anusbung is offline
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Default Silybum is a liar (was Re: Stay away from PokerWorld

Silybum is a liar.

You said pokerworld doesn't use props, but they do.

Liveactionpoker.com sent out the following e-mail to recruit them for pokerworld:


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LiveActionPoker.com has been contracted to acquire 70 REAL Online Poker Props and we would like to know if you are interested. This means that you will be paid for playing online poker!

Unlike other programs that only pay per raked hand, this program will pay you for every hand that is DEALT to you! That means you could be the tightest "rock" and still get paid for it.

Here is the actual payment plan:

Stakes / Pay per hand Avg pay/based on 60-70 hands/hr.

1/2 .07 $5
2/4 .12 $7-9
3/6 .15 $9-12
5/10+ .18 $10-14
NL/PL .10 $6-7

As a Prop Player you will be required to play a minimum of just 600 hands per week (maximum of 6,000).

All Prop Players will receive a 50% initial deposit bonus up to $250 AND an ongoing 25% RELOAD BONUS.

All players are eligible as long as they can play a minimum of 600 hands per week, but the more you play, the more you will make. The pay period is Wednesday-Tuesday.Payday will be no later than the following Friday,deposited directly into your account.

What is the site?

The site that you will be playing at is PokerWorld.com. Poker World is owned by the third largest online sports book on the Internet and promises to become one of the largest poker rooms as well.

How do you get started?

Poker World will be opening their doors to the public sometime TODAY, however, you can get enrolled as a paid Prop Player right now! To get started please follow these steps carefully:

1. Download Poker World's free software at http://www.pokerworld.com/download/PokerWorld.exe
2. IMPORTANT: When signing up for your new account, be sure and use the referal code: pokerprops


Once you have completed those steps, email the following information to pwprops@liveactionpoker.com

1. Your MSN instant Messenger Name (You must have MSN Instant Messenger)
2. Your new Poker World username


Once these steps are completed, you will receive a welcome email from the Prop Manager giving you final instructions.

This is the absolute best Prop Program on the Internet. If you have ever dreamed of getting paid to play, then this is your opportunity!



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So if anyone wants to get cheated and lied to -- go deposit your money at PokerWorld.
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:05 AM
anusbung anusbung is offline
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Default Silybum is a liar (was Re: Stay away from PokerWorld

Silybum is a liar.

Pokerworld uses props. In fact almost all their games are filled with nothing but props. Even with all their props they can barely get more than a single 1-2, 2-4, or 3-6 game -- and these are ALWAYS shorthanded -- because props aren't allowed to fill up the games...one is always required to leave the table if the game fills up -- so since 99% of the players are props....the games never fill up.

Here a copy of the e-mail that liveactionpoker.com sent out to recruit props for PokerWorld:

LiveActionPoker.com has been contracted to acquire 70 REAL Online Poker Props and we would like to know if you are interested. This means that you will be paid for playing online poker!

Unlike other programs that only pay per raked hand, this program will pay you for every hand that is DEALT to you! That means you could be the tightest "rock" and still get paid for it.

Here is the actual payment plan:

Stakes / Pay per hand Avg pay/based on 60-70 hands/hr.

1/2 .07 $5
2/4 .12 $7-9
3/6 .15 $9-12
5/10+ .18 $10-14
NL/PL .10 $6-7

As a Prop Player you will be required to play a minimum of just 600 hands per week (maximum of 6,000).

All Prop Players will receive a 50% initial deposit bonus up to $250 AND an ongoing 25% RELOAD BONUS.

All players are eligible as long as they can play a minimum of 600 hands per week, but the more you play, the more you will make. The pay period is Wednesday-Tuesday.Payday will be no later than the following Friday,deposited directly into your account.

What is the site?

The site that you will be playing at is PokerWorld.com. Poker World is owned by the third largest online sports book on the Internet and promises to become one of the largest poker rooms as well.

How do you get started?

Poker World will be opening their doors to the public sometime TODAY, however, you can get enrolled as a paid Prop Player right now! To get started please follow these steps carefully:

1. Download Poker World's free software at http://www.pokerworld.com/download/PokerWorld.exe
2. IMPORTANT: When signing up for your new account, be sure and use the referal code: pokerprops


Once you have completed those steps, email the following information to pwprops@liveactionpoker.com

1. Your MSN instant Messenger Name (You must have MSN Instant Messenger)
2. Your new Poker World username


Once these steps are completed, you will receive a welcome email from the Prop Manager giving you final instructions.

This is the absolute best Prop Program on the Internet. If you have ever dreamed of getting paid to play, then this is your opportunity!


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Old 03-17-2004, 01:26 PM
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Default Clearing the air on pokerworld

Host or Prop players have been used by the various sites from the beginning of internet poker play. Ultimate Bet, Party Poker, Poker Stars, Paradise, and Empire have had and continue to employ such teams. I am not limiting my information to these sites , merely using them as an example of some of the mostly all who do. Others include Fabulous, ACR, Popular, Victoria's, BigBet. So you see prop players at a site aren't an exception they are the rule anywhere they are legal. Some sites who do not have prop teams have shareholders who play rake free--(as do prop players); others have affiliate programs where members get up to 100% rake "rebates" (as do prop players).

The attacks on Poker World I see herein seem to be posted, at least the most venemous ones, by prop players employed at another site not mentioned herein who is competing with pokerworld. These props have 48 hours to admit in this thread that they are in fact paid professional players and have been for a long time. If they fail to do so , I will name them and their current employer. I will tell you that prior posts from a month ago were initiated by other props from that same site.

PROPS AND SHILLS ARE IN ANY CASINO WHO CHOOSES TO EMPLOY THEM IN NEVADA AND CALIFORNIA and any other state where they are legal. In fact there is a shortage of props in Los Angeles for bricks and mortar rooms who are paying great rates for new props.

Sometimes props are dismissed for cause. The lack of ethics they displayed on the job shows up in posts such as you see here where they breach confidentiality clauses in their contracts and tell outrageous lies in a sick attempt at revenge.

The regular player is at no disadvantage when playing house hosts. In fact they have the advantage of being able to leave table when things are going bad; the host can't. They can hit and run; the host can't. They can sit in cement in seat when things are going well; the host can't as room managers will send them at a moments notice to help save a table from breaking. They can decide when to take winnings to bank, ending their session; the host can't quit till shift is over. They can leave a 3 handed game if cards are running badly; the host is contractually forbidden to do so.
Any host/hosts caught colluding are instantly barred, fired, and forfeit their account balance and pay due to that moment.
Good programs have room managers on duty at least 16 hours a day watching and directing traffic to ensure tables remain balanced to the benefit of the client/player who doesn't have to worry his game might break while he is on winning streak.
The client can leave at any time and many --called "hit and runners' do.
As a final note copyrite laws were legislated to protect creative efforts. Anything not so protected is part of the public domain.
Since "a knife in the back" is not my style I will be advising the site who employs the undeclared prop players of the ultimatum contained herein; The Ides of March notwithstanding!
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Clearing the air on pokerworld

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The attacks on Poker World I see herein seem to be posted, at least the most venemous ones, by prop players employed at another site not mentioned herein who is competing with pokerworld. These props have 48 hours to admit in this thread that they are in fact paid professional players and have been for a long time. If they fail to do so , I will name them and their current employer. I will tell you that prior posts from a month ago were initiated by other props from that same site.


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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Do you really expect anyone to take this threat seriously?
If you have a reputable source, state what it is. Without that, it will just come across as senseless accusations.
BTW, are you Dutch Boyd too? (now that Silybum has buried any hope of credibility)
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